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11-10-2013, 04:06 PM
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He's the real deal.

Him and Carter will be lethal on Richard's wings.
I'm not saying Toffoli is bad but it just drives me nuts when people say a prospect is the real deal after 10 games or so.

In that case, Andrew Raycroft and Fabien Brunnstron are both the real deal

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11-10-2013, 04:11 PM
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The kid is awesome, it sucks that he's been in the minors so long because the big club is finding it so hard to find a slot for him with Williams and Carter ahead of him. Pearson-Vey-Toffoli have been lighting up the AHL for so long, it is a wonder why it took this long for two of them to get the call-up regardless of roster issues.

Should have been with the big club from the start of the season, but he is here to stay now, just have to wait and see what happens when Carter returns because he could end up on Stoll's wing or something stupid like that, and then we'll watch his numbers plummet into a black hole as all do when playing with Stoll
They have only been together in the AHL one year... Vey has 2 seasons in the AHL while both the others have only had 1 full season in the A. Breaking in an NHL team's top 6 at 21 is actually pretty quick and shows how great Toffoli's development has been.

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11-10-2013, 04:58 PM
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His skating is ugly. But it's no longer poor. He skates ok now, which is good because that was one of only two weaknesses in his game.
I concur. He has a horrendous stride, but that sure doesn't matter if it gets him from point A to point B in time!

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11-10-2013, 05:04 PM
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They have only been together in the AHL one year... Vey has 2 seasons in the AHL while both the others have only had 1 full season in the A. Breaking in an NHL team's top 6 at 21 is actually pretty quick and shows how great Toffoli's development has been.
It's a long time in "Kings time". Given our scoring woes on the wing, it is hard to justify keeping prospects like Toffoli down while the big club struggles to score. It was evident that he was ready to stay and was a little baffling that he was sent down in order to keep bottom 6 grinders on the roster. LA has had an allergy for developing skill forwards for a while now, it is nice that we finally gave one a chance to shine

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11-10-2013, 05:11 PM
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I immediately picked him up for my fantasy team when I heard the Kings had called him up... So far, he's lived up to my expectations.

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11-10-2013, 05:38 PM
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They were both lucky goals. One went off the skate after he fanned on the shot. The other was also lucky.

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11-10-2013, 05:43 PM
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They were both lucky goals. One went off the skate after he fanned on the shot. The other was also lucky.
"I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it." Thomas Jefferson

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still too early

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11-10-2013, 06:18 PM
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Makes me wonder what Hockey Canada smokes when they dont include goal scorers like this. If they actually watched hockey they'd see that while he wasnt a great skater it didnt hold him back. Definitely could have used him at the WJC.

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11-10-2013, 06:45 PM
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They were both lucky goals. One went off the skate after he fanned on the shot. The other was also lucky.


Lucky ass give and go! Weird that it still counts the same though eh?

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11-10-2013, 06:46 PM
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I was only aware of his skating as a weakness (being only average), what was his other weakness?
It was also argued he was totally one-dimensional, fwiw. But he seems to have good vision and the knack for being in the right place not just for shots/rebounds but puck support in general

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I was only aware of his skating as a weakness (being only average), what was his other weakness?
He had terrible fitness. Lombardi commented how Toffoli couldn't do a single pull-up.

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11-10-2013, 06:50 PM
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he was pretty solid last year when he got called up for the playoffs

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They were both lucky goals. One went off the skate after he fanned on the shot. The other was also lucky.
Still upset?

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11-10-2013, 07:22 PM
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They were both lucky goals. One went off the skate after he fanned on the shot. The other was also lucky.
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Lucky ass give and go! Weird that it still counts the same though eh?
Its always luck when someone scores on Vancouver.

Or the refs fault.

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11-10-2013, 07:27 PM
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It's a shame that he'll be traded eventually. You can't be a young Kings forward and think that you can get away with showing creativity and offensive potential for very long. You're liable to be shipped out and replaced by someone who fits "Kings hockey" better (read: goes into the corner more, backchecks more, plays a more physical game and, ultimately, puts up more modest numbers). I'm joking, but not completely.

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11-10-2013, 09:22 PM
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It's a shame that he'll be traded eventually. You can't be a young Kings forward and think that you can get away with showing creativity and offensive potential for very long. You're liable to be shipped out and replaced by someone who fits "Kings hockey" better (read: goes into the corner more, backchecks more, plays a more physical game and, ultimately, puts up more modest numbers). I'm joking, but not completely.
lol! True story.

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11-10-2013, 11:34 PM
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kids

not goin anywhere. good hockey IQ and oh baby what a wrister

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11-11-2013, 01:29 AM
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Toffoli is a combination of carter and williams. The quintessential player, if you will.

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11-11-2013, 01:50 AM
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^^^ spot on

the kid has a sick shot. snapper/wrister even likes to use the slap shot. his shot us unreal.

hes got a finishers hands and skill set. good defensively and is always in the right place at the right time in the O zone... the puck always finds its way to his stick... ala luc robataille... he produces every where he plays. put up some unreal numbers in JR and was AHL rookie of the year with 28G 23A in 58 games and boasted a high plus minus fwiw(i think it was +20). 5 pts in 3 games so far this year and a +3... nothing to get too excited about yet but those numbers are encouraging and only reinforce my confidence in him replacing williams as 1RW whenever the time comes.


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11-11-2013, 08:21 AM
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Yeah I'm eating crow on this kid.

Watched him play for the 67's and while there was no doubt he could finish, I thought he wasn't willing to do the work to take it to the next level.

Can I get a mulligan?

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11-11-2013, 08:59 AM
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It's a shame that he'll be traded eventually. You can't be a young Kings forward and think that you can get away with showing creativity and offensive potential for very long. You're liable to be shipped out and replaced by someone who fits "Kings hockey" better (read: goes into the corner more, backchecks more, plays a more physical game and, ultimately, puts up more modest numbers). I'm joking, but not completely.
Maybe if you didn't bother quitting as a Kings fan you could watch enough to realize Toffoli has no problems with backchecking, physical play, or going into the corners. Spare us the righteous indignation.

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It's a shame that he'll be traded eventually. You can't be a young Kings forward and think that you can get away with showing creativity and offensive potential for very long. You're liable to be shipped out and replaced by someone who fits "Kings hockey" better (read: goes into the corner more, backchecks more, plays a more physical game and, ultimately, puts up more modest numbers). I'm joking, but not completely.
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lol! True story.
Which young Kings forwards have been shipped out for showing creativity and offensive potential and replaced by someone who fits Kings hockey more?

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Which young Kings forwards have been shipped out for showing creativity and offensive potential and replaced by someone who fits Kings hockey more?
Michael Cammalleri maybe? Only guy i think of off the top of my head that these guys would be talking about. He was amazing to watch his first few seasons in the NHL in a Kings jersey, very creative and finesse.

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It's a shame that he'll be traded eventually. You can't be a young Kings forward and think that you can get away with showing creativity and offensive potential for very long. You're liable to be shipped out and replaced by someone who fits "Kings hockey" better (read: goes into the corner more, backchecks more, plays a more physical game and, ultimately, puts up more modest numbers). I'm joking, but not completely.
I thought it was a great tongue-in-cheek post

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Yeah I'm eating crow on this kid.

Watched him play for the 67's and while there was no doubt he could finish, I thought he wasn't willing to do the work to take it to the next level.

Can I get a mulligan?
I think that's the knock on a lot of skill players that need a wake-up call--when you find out you can't get by on one skill alone, do you quit or work on everything else? By all accounts, his work ethic has been terrific. Maybe slipping to the 2nd round and playing vs. pros in the AHL was his wake-up.

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