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Coyotes, FOX Sports Arizona announce long-term TV rights agreement (12 yrs)

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11-12-2013, 06:31 PM
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This. Considering that no details were disclosed, this is proably correct.
You PROBABLY are wrong.

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11-13-2013, 09:54 AM
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This. Considering that no details were disclosed, this is proably correct.
Just curious, are terms and financial implications for teams themselves usually disclosed? I know when the NHL signed a deal with NBC they disclosed the terms and financial aspects of the deal, but that is the league as a whole.

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Just curious, are terms and financial implications for teams themselves usually disclosed? I know when the NHL signed a deal with NBC they disclosed the terms and financial aspects of the deal, but that is the league as a whole.
I know the Kings deal with FS was made pretty public.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun...ox-tv-20120604

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I know the Kings deal with FS was made pretty public.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun...ox-tv-20120604
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The new deal keeps the Kings on Fox Sports West through 2024 and guarantees the team about $250 million, according to a person familiar with the agreement who was not authorized to discuss the terms.
So unless someone leaks the information, it's safe to say that terms of these types of deals aren't made public?


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So unless someone leaks the information, it's safe to say that terms of these types of deals aren't made public?
No, generally speaking the details are released be it league wide or individual teams, from webcast content to radio, national/local broadcast deals, PPV etc.

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So unless someone leaks the information, it's safe to say that terms of these types of deals aren't made public?

I've always seen the term released for individual teams, but not the dollar value in every case. We've had a difficult time piecing together individual team revenue from local contracts.

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^^^ ya, its inconsistent. One can usually easily find out what teams like Toronto, Vancouver, New York & others are receiving or producing themselves however starts getting iffy the further down the food chain you go. We do know that the Coyotes were receiving $4.5M per annum in the last year that Moyes owned the team as per public records through the Bankruptcy but really, Id be shocked, surprised if Fox is paying anywhere near that based on whats transpired over the past 4-5yrs along with the ratings themselves in Arizona which are pretty abysmal to say the least. As I mentioned earlier, Im thinkin they most likely modeled the Contract on the old NHL/Versus agreement.

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^^^ ya, its inconsistent. One can usually easily find out what teams like Toronto, Vancouver, New York & others are receiving or producing themselves however starts getting iffy the further down the food chain you go. We do know that the Coyotes were receiving $4.5M per annum in the last year that Moyes owned the team as per public records through the Bankruptcy but really, Id be shocked, surprised if Fox is paying anywhere near that based on whats transpired over the past 4-5yrs along with the ratings themselves in Arizona which are pretty abysmal to say the least. As I mentioned earlier, Im thinkin they most likely modeled the Contract on the old NHL/Versus agreement.
Why would they be paying less? The ratings relative to that time have improved(not greatly, but have gone up) and the cost of these TV deals have increased at that same time.

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Why would they be paying less? The ratings relative to that time have improved(not greatly, but have gone up) and the cost of these TV deals have increased at that same time.
Leverage, this wasn't done before the season so FSA had the Coyotes by the fuzzballs at the negotiation table. Not to mention there wasn't much demand so there was no pressure on FSA to get a deal done.

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Why would they be paying less? The ratings relative to that time have improved(not greatly, but have gone up) and the cost of these TV deals have increased at that same time.
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Leverage, this wasn't done before the season so FSA had the Coyotes by the fuzzballs at the negotiation table. Not to mention there wasn't much demand so there was no pressure on FSA to get a deal done.
Basically what wildthing opines and if they did receive or will receive $4.5M++ per annum guaranteed on a local broadcast deal then absolutely they'd be trumpeting it with a full court announcement.

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