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11-26-2013, 09:14 PM
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Matthias seems like he'd compliment our high-end 4th line players in Prust and Moen very well. I think I see him being more suited on the third line in some capacity but I'm not sure we have the high-end talent up front to make up for downgrading our 3-line system. In any case, I think he'd be a very good long-term addition to our team. Maybe not as exciting as some of the other rumours going around but White+ or something around Bourque would be a solid move IMO.

-Might be a little contentious to say but having a good, defensive centerman on our third line might make moving Plekanec a possibility.
Bold for you to say but you make a good point. Though I wouldn't trade plek unless we get a very acceptable return and Galch is established as a centre

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11-26-2013, 09:28 PM
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connolly might be a good player to target, hes sorta in the same position that niederreiter was in last year. low value player with decent upside, i'd take a gamble on him by offering diaz

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11-26-2013, 09:50 PM
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I love how on the trade board, any proposals for Evander Kane needed to start with PK Subban, but Pacioretty isn't even worth Voynov. Such absurdity.
Bias is clouding their judgement.

Who in their right mind would trade a young Norris trophy winning Dman for a young potential first line LW who has known character question marks?

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11-27-2013, 05:20 PM
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ur trolling right?
They tried him center and it's not working.

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They tried him center and it's not working.
he looked fine, and they only tried him at center for like.. 2 games?

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11-27-2013, 07:47 PM
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and how DD has been playing since last season...
Around the same as, or better than, Erat, actually.

Erat: 68 games 30 points, -7.

DD:70 games, 32 points, +1.

I do not see how Erat is supposedly so much better. I wouldn't object to an Erat for DD trade due to salary and the fact that Erat is more physical than DD. However, it is not the kind of trade where I would be willing to add anything significant to, nor would I be willing to retain salary to, make it happen.

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11-27-2013, 07:57 PM
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o_0

Really?!
Why would we even consider trading Gallagher for Couturier and Morin??? Gallagher is significantly better than Couturier and Morin is a very interesting prospect but is still nothing more than that. The only thing we "win" in this deal is getting more francophone. Who cares? I want the better quality player and that is CLEARLY Gallagher.

Damn, Gallagher has almost as many points in less than half the total number of games.

Couturier: 146 games, 50 points.

Gallagher: 67 games, 42 points.

Again, why are we even thinking this is a good deal for us???

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11-28-2013, 10:59 AM
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what type of package are you guys looking to get for pacioretty + 1st

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11-28-2013, 11:02 AM
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what type of package are you guys looking to get for pacioretty + 1st
Nichushkin+ would be nice

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11-28-2013, 11:03 AM
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what type of package are you guys looking to get for pacioretty + 1st
A better player than Pacioretty.

The habs are in a position to trade a package for a better player, not the opposite. We have too much depth, and not enough high-end players. Doing anything else wouldn't make any sense at all.

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11-28-2013, 11:07 AM
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Trading Max just can't happen. The Habs aren't rebuilding, and if a team is trading for Max, they are not going to sell a top player, since they are more than likely not rebuilding.

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11-28-2013, 11:15 AM
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A better player than Pacioretty.

The habs are in a position to trade a package for a better player, not the opposite. We have too much depth, and not enough high-end players. Doing anything else wouldn't make any sense at all.
so u'd opt for an upgrade on the wing instead of a slight downgrade + a young dman that has top pairing potential? the majority of habs fans share a similar view on this subject
pretty sure most of you know where i stand on this topic, and yes i know that our D has been our strength this year and that we lack offense

obviously all this is hypothetical again, moving pacioretty would be dumb just because of what he brings to the team and more importantly because of his sexy contract

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11-28-2013, 11:47 AM
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what do you think buffalo would need to get myers?

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11-28-2013, 11:54 AM
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what do you think buffalo would need to get myers?
Some followup major slump/regression look to Myers' game? They've paid out so much of his contract already, though, maybe he's immune even to that. In any event, he seems to have bounced back well this year? At least with Ristolainen and Zadorov on the way, there could be some eventual hope?

I don't think there's any actual sane hockey trade we could make to get Myers from them right now. Not sure if they'd take an unsigned Subban, or maybe if they move Miller they'd consider Price, that sort of thing. We aren't going there.

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11-28-2013, 12:11 PM
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Around the same as, or better than, Erat, actually.

Erat: 68 games 30 points, -7.

DD:70 games, 32 points, +1.

I do not see how Erat is supposedly so much better. I wouldn't object to an Erat for DD trade due to salary and the fact that Erat is more physical than DD. However, it is not the kind of trade where I would be willing to add anything significant to, nor would I be willing to retain salary to, make it happen.
Two issues with that trade.

1-Erat's cap hit is 1 million more
2-DD is playing A LOT better than him right now, why mess with something that works?

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11-28-2013, 12:13 PM
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what type of package are you guys looking to get for pacioretty + 1st
A superstar. So it won't happen.

Trading a Pacioretty is a bad idea unless a ridiculous offer is coming.

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11-28-2013, 12:17 PM
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Why would we even consider trading Gallagher for Couturier and Morin??? Gallagher is significantly better than Couturier and Morin is a very interesting prospect but is still nothing more than that. The only thing we "win" in this deal is getting more francophone. Who cares? I want the better quality player and that is CLEARLY Gallagher.

Damn, Gallagher has almost as many points in less than half the total number of games.

Couturier: 146 games, 50 points.

Gallagher: 67 games, 42 points.

Again, why are we even thinking this is a good deal for us???
The issue with that deal, which I doubt Phillie makes, is that you're opening up a hole on RW for two players which we already have similar guys here in Eller(looks like better offensive player to boot) and Tinordi.

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11-28-2013, 12:19 PM
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what type of package are you guys looking to get for pacioretty + 1st
There's no package out there I would take for that. No package that any NHL team would actually be willing to part with, anyway. It would have to be one of a very small number of league wide superstars involved. And that's just not gonna happen. Crazy how many people opted to run with the Pacioretty trade scenarios anyway, just off some throwaway comment on TV or wherever.

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11-28-2013, 12:20 PM
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Some followup major slump/regression look to Myers' game? They've paid out so much of his contract already, though, maybe he's immune even to that. In any event, he seems to have bounced back well this year? At least with Ristolainen and Zadorov on the way, there could be some eventual hope?

I don't think there's any actual sane hockey trade we could make to get Myers from them right now. Not sure if they'd take an unsigned Subban, or maybe if they move Miller they'd consider Price, that sort of thing. We aren't going there.
WHAT LOL. we are talking about tyler myers here

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11-28-2013, 12:21 PM
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11-28-2013, 12:22 PM
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WHAT LOL. we are talking about tyler myers here
What, you were expecting "Diaz, Bourque, and a 2nd"? Try it and see with the Sabres fans, I guess?

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11-28-2013, 12:23 PM
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I like the idea of trading for a top 10 left winger at $4.5M per season. I like it a lot.

Oh wait, we already have that? And people want to trade him?

Oh...

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11-28-2013, 12:32 PM
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I like the idea of trading for a top 10 left winger at $4.5M per season. I like it a lot.

Oh wait, we already have that? And people want to trade him?

Oh...
This. People are dumb and Bergevin is an idiot if he moves Pacioretty for anything less than major over payment. No need.

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11-28-2013, 12:36 PM
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thoughts on pacioretty + pateryn for chiasson + dillon? valuewise
or pacioretty + gorges for nichushkin + dillon


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11-28-2013, 12:37 PM
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What, you were expecting "Diaz, Bourque, and a 2nd"? Try it and see with the Sabres fans, I guess?
Myers is a turnover machine whos overpaid big time. Why would we trade him for a restricted free agent subban whos ten times better? Its not like theyll lose him to free agency and if they do theyre getting 4 1sts.

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