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[CHI/FLA] Versteeg (50% cap hit) + Phillipe Lefebvre for Jimmy Hayes + Dylan Olsen

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11-14-2013, 11:30 PM
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Hawks fans are touchy

"Yay Versteeg is back"

"Versteeg sucks"

"Nuh uh, Florida sucks, You're hockey team is pathetic, u shouldn't even be a team, i hate everyone in a panthers jersey, relocate, and fire tallon, campbell is horrible and frolik won us the cup"
This literally happened.

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11-14-2013, 11:31 PM
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Like this move from the Hawks perspective. At half salary, there's not a whole lot of risk. Hayes and Olsen were both part of a glut of quality non-blue chip type prospects that Chicago has. Definitely some upside since Versteeg isn't exactly old and was a great fit here back in 08-09 and 09-10. Good trade for Florida too since he clearly wasn't working out on their rebuilding team and Olsen and Hayes could be solid depth players for them.

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11-14-2013, 11:32 PM
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Kris Versteeg told me after healthy scratch in DC: 'It's not like they can trade me because of the contract.' Had a 15 team no-trade.

Didn't know this.

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11-14-2013, 11:33 PM
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Yup, win for both sides.

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Hawks fans are touchy

"Yay Versteeg is back"

"Versteeg sucks"

"Nuh uh, Florida sucks, You're hockey team is pathetic, u shouldn't even be a team, i hate everyone in a panthers jersey, relocate, and fire tallon, campbell is horrible and frolik won us the cup"
Pretty much all true except for the campbell is horrible part. Also, don't fire Tallon in case the Hawks need another trade.

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11-14-2013, 11:34 PM
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Hawks fans are touchy

"Yay Versteeg is back"

"Versteeg sucks"

"Nuh uh, Florida sucks, You're hockey team is pathetic, u shouldn't even be a team, i hate everyone in a panthers jersey, relocate, and fire tallon, campbell is horrible and frolik won us the cup"
Don't think anybody said that. My first impression of this trade is that it has win-win potential. It could blow up in the Hawks face I suppose but Olsen and Hayes shouldn't in all likelihood be more than bottom six/bottom pair guys and at half the cap hit Versteeg won't carry around too big a price tag.

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11-14-2013, 11:36 PM
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Kris Versteeg told me after healthy scratch in DC: 'It's not like they can trade me because of the contract.' Had a 15 team no-trade.

Didn't know this.
1: 15 trade no clause, wtf?!?! The most i heard of is 10 i believe an those are pretty rare.

2: who gives versteeg that?! Lolz he's not a superstar exactly...

3: no offense but why 15? It's not like Florida is a great team... You're gonna be real good in a few years however.

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11-14-2013, 11:38 PM
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Btw wasn't it in Florida he ripped it up? What happened? Reality kicked in?

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11-14-2013, 11:39 PM
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Don't think anybody said that. My first impression of this trade is that it has win-win potential. It could blow up in the Hawks face I suppose but Olsen and Hayes shouldn't in all likelihood be more than bottom six/bottom pair guys and at half the cap hit Versteeg won't carry around too big a price tag.
Versteeg @2.2 won't blow up in the Hawks face. That deal is tradeable if he underperforms. Even if he's bad he'll still put up good numbers.

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Overall,

He's hasn't been playing well in Florida and they dont care about the money because they aren't a cap team - so they flip him and get 2 solid prospects

For the Hawks, where else can you find a player that is locked in at 2.2M in this era of crazy spending.

You get a guy on the 3rd line that ill replace Morin/Brookbank and give you a serviceable 3rd line next to Shaw and Bickell
He can also play PP and PK

I think its a good trade for both

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Well...yeah
Well I think that may have been part of the problem in Florida- on paper one of the better players on their roster.

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11-14-2013, 11:46 PM
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Don't think anybody said that. My first impression of this trade is that it has win-win potential. It could blow up in the Hawks face I suppose but Olsen and Hayes shouldn't in all likelihood be more than bottom six/bottom pair guys and at half the cap hit Versteeg won't carry around too big a price tag.
The Hawks need to start moving assets at Rockford anyway to make room for some of their more recent draft picks. Those are the ropes. This trade has really nice potential for the Hawks, especially with the diminished AAV of Versteeg's contract.

Olsen and Hayes were never going to crack the lineup as things stand right now anyway.

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11-14-2013, 11:47 PM
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Don't really get this retread from the Hawks. Good job by Tallon getting rid of him though.

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11-14-2013, 11:48 PM
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Yeah, I mentioned that back on page 2 I believe and people continued to question whether or not Tallon drafted him. Oh well.
I saw. It gets confusing I guess since Tallon was demoted before actually leaving. He wasn't fired. Some people might confuse that.

Hayes, I actually forgot was drafted by Toronto and acquired in a trade. Up until now that slipped my mind completely.

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Good for Chi-Town. Some players just don't work out in some environments, Versteeg is a Chicago player at heart..

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Love this trade for the Hawks. Was worried when I heard Olsen & Hayes, until they said Jimmy and not Kevin.

Still should be a pretty decent return for Florida if Jimmy ever realizes he is 6'6 and not 4'6. Olsen has looked a lot better so far this year and should be solid for the Panthers.

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11-14-2013, 11:52 PM
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11-14-2013, 11:55 PM
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Hawks fans are touchy

"Yay Versteeg is back"

"Versteeg sucks"

"Nuh uh, Florida sucks, You're hockey team is pathetic, u shouldn't even be a team, i hate everyone in a panthers jersey, relocate, and fire tallon, campbell is horrible and frolik won us the cup"
that is funny because there is a grain of truth in there somewhere between all the brown stuff

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Don't really get this retread from the Hawks. Good job by Tallon getting rid of him though.
We needed a 3rd line RW and got Versteeg at 2.2 for two more years after this. What's not to get?

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11-14-2013, 11:59 PM
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We needed a 3rd line RW and got Versteeg at 2.2 for two more years after this. What's not to get?
I'm thinking jealousy.

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11-15-2013, 12:00 AM
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Great, can't wait to see more turnovers at the blueline leading to odd man breaks again.

Versteeg was probably the least missed piece from 2010 but I can see him turning things around a bit coming back to Chicago. I don't think Hayes really got a fair shake here, I think he has more potential than what we saw of him. Olsen...bleh, whatever.
Bang on.
Most of the people on here don't know Versteeg.

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11-15-2013, 12:03 AM
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Versteeg isn't the most consistent of players but it's not like Chicago are buying a pig in a poke here. They know him.

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Seems like a good deal for Chicago. They give up two prospects who probably weren't going to make the team and get a complementary scorer in return at half price.

I wish the Canucks would have jumped on this. I would've traded Grenier and Suave for a half-price Versteeg in an instant.

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