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11-16-2013, 01:08 PM
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Tor - Edm

:Edmonton:

1st in 2014



Franson + 3rd.

It has been said Edmonton would trade their 1st for a defensemen who helps now. I think this could be a good trade for both teams.

For the leafs it could be like the Boston trade for them. Trade a young skilled player who is going to ask for a raise you may not be able to afford after this year, and possibly get a top prospect.

Edmonton gets a top 4 defensemen with size. He puts up good numbers while also being reliable defensively. He is only 26 and entering his prime. He can be paired with anyone. He still has room to improve also. This trade makes Edmonton better now.

I think there can be something done around these pieces. Does Toronto add? If so how much?

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11-16-2013, 01:09 PM
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:Edmonton

1st in 2014



Franson + 3rd.

It has been said Edmonton would trade their 1st for a defensemen who helps now. I think this could be a good trade for both teams.

For the leafs it could be like the Boston trade for them. Trade a young skilled player who is going to ask for a raise you may not be able to afford after this year, and possibly get a top prospect.

Edmonton gets a top 4 defensemen with size. He puts up good numbers while also being reliable defensively. He is only 26 and entering his prime. He can be paired with anyone. He still has room to improve also. This trade makes Edmonton better now.

I think there can be something done around these pieces. Does Toronto add? If so how much?
We don't have a third in 2014, but we'd be willing to throw in prospects or something. Because I'd do that in a heartbeat.

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11-16-2013, 01:11 PM
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We don't have a third in 2014, but we'd be willing to throw in prospects or something. Because I'd do that in a heartbeat.
Edmonton wouldn't do that for a posible 1-3 1st rounder but they could use franson.

Maybe change that to:

To Edm - TO 1st, Franson, prospect

To TO - Edm 1st

Edit - even then Edmonton probably would want a very good prospect. Otherwise they would be smart to just wait until the trade deadline to worry about dumping their 1st as they will definitely get more than what you have offered.

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11-16-2013, 01:13 PM
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Edmonton wouldn't do that for a posible 1-3 1st rounder but they could use franson.

Maybe change that to:

To Edm - TO 1st, Franson, prospect

To TO - Edm 1st
Done IMO, the prospect would be lesser or none existent. Also trade wouldn't be done now, more towards selling period, or else there should be a conditional protected top 10 Edmonton pick, and Toronto isn't top like 15, or else we gain a 1st or second in 2015

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Edmonton wouldn't do that for a posible 1-3 1st rounder but they could use franson.

Maybe change that to:

To Edm - TO 1st, Franson, prospect

To TO - Edm 1st
This wouldn't happen before the draft then.

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11-16-2013, 01:13 PM
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So the Oilers who are currently last in the league and have the first overall pick are going to trade it for Cody Franson?

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11-16-2013, 01:14 PM
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Done IMO, the prospect would be lesser or none existent. Also trade wouldn't be done now, more towards selling period, or else there should be a conditional protected top 10 Edmonton pick, and Toronto isn't top like 15, or else we gain a 1st or second in 2015
It's laughably horrible right now. IF Edmonton turns it around and the leafs sink, the Leafs pick could actually be higher. Unlikely, but possible. We give Franson + a prospect to move... down?! I think not.

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11-16-2013, 01:17 PM
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So the Oilers who are currently last in the league and have the first overall pick are going to trade it for Cody Franson?
Exactly, if the Oilers are going to move their pick they should do it at the draft when they can get best value for it. Right now, it doesn't have the value of a top pick because there's no guarantee the Oil won't turn things around to some degree. Also, as we near the trade deadline, many more contending teams will be offering picks up in exchange for talent.

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11-16-2013, 01:18 PM
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It's laughably horrible right now. IF Edmonton turns it around and the leafs sink, the Leafs pick could actually be higher. Unlikely, but possible. We give Franson + a prospect to move... down?! I think not.
Why I said it should be a conditional that is protected.

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11-16-2013, 01:20 PM
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2 years ago was the year to trade the pick for Edmonton not this year. With a franchise type defenseman at the top of the draft they would be foolish to move the pick for anything really, considering how bad they are and not likely to get better.

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11-16-2013, 01:22 PM
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2 years ago was the year to trade the pick for Edmonton not this year. With a franchise type defenseman at the top of the draft they would be foolish to move the pick for anything really, considering how bad they are and not likely to get better.
Though they need a defenseman now. Not in a couple of years. And not a young defenseman like that. Plus they'll still have a first round pick, and maybe a prospect.

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11-16-2013, 01:22 PM
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Leafs would be stupid to trade their only RHD for a pick with conditions attached to it. Leafs are hoping to contend in 2-3 years and this sets them back.

Also, a squad with all LHD's is easy to game plan against and exploit. Toronto's current playoff hopes would take a severe hit.

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11-16-2013, 01:28 PM
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Leafs would be stupid to trade their only RHD for a pick with conditions attached to it. Leafs are hoping to contend in 2-3 years and this sets them back.

Also, a squad with all LHD's is easy to game plan against and exploit. Toronto's current playoff hopes would take a severe hit.
We have Holzer And he's lost value and probably won't be back next year.

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11-16-2013, 01:29 PM
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This is a terrible trade for Edmonton. Franson isnt going to stop that from being a top 5 pick.

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11-16-2013, 01:30 PM
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Ekblad for Franson? Sounds pretty fair to me lol

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11-16-2013, 01:32 PM
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They should just go to New York for Del Zotto, they won't have to pay their first.

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11-16-2013, 01:38 PM
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We have Holzer And he's lost value and probably won't be back next year.
Holzer sucks.

And I don't see how an offensive defenseman who has put up a good amount of points has lost value.

Again... Toronto's playoff aspirations this year take a hit for a conditional pick that won't help us for another 2-3 years, if ever.

With that said, if the pick isn't conditional then Edmonton would be stupid to make this trade.

Either way you look at it, you're defending a stupid proposal.

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11-16-2013, 01:40 PM
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Holzer sucks.

And I don't see how an offensive defenseman who has put up a good amount of points has lost value.

Again... Toronto's playoff aspirations this year take a hit for a conditional pick that won't help us for another 2-3 years, if ever.

With that said, if the pick isn't conditional then Edmonton would be stupid to make this trade.

Either way you look at it, you're defending a stupid proposal.
LOL I'm not defending anything, I'm just trying to see how that trade would work. I don't care how much of a good offensive defenseman he is, we have too many.

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11-16-2013, 01:56 PM
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Let's trade Hall for Reimer also!

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11-16-2013, 01:57 PM
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:Edmonton:

1st in 2014



Franson + 3rd.

It has been said Edmonton would trade their 1st for a defensemen who helps now. I think this could be a good trade for both teams.

For the leafs it could be like the Boston trade for them. Trade a young skilled player who is going to ask for a raise you may not be able to afford after this year, and possibly get a top prospect.

Edmonton gets a top 4 defensemen with size. He puts up good numbers while also being reliable defensively. He is only 26 and entering his prime. He can be paired with anyone. He still has room to improve also. This trade makes Edmonton better now.

I think there can be something done around these pieces. Does Toronto add? If so how much?
Franson is not really a defenseman that would help the Oilers much at all.

If Edmonton wanted to deal their first rounder for a defeseman, they could get a much better one then Franson, IMO.

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11-16-2013, 02:01 PM
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Cody Franson, the fanbase's whipping boy, is worth a Top-5 draft pick?

In what universe is this reasonable?

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ekblad for franson? Sounds pretty fair to me lol
and a 3rd good sir!

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Edmonton wouldn't do that for a posible 1-3 1st rounder but they could use franson.

Maybe change that to:

To Edm - TO 1st, Franson, prospect

To TO - Edm 1st

Edit - even then Edmonton probably would want a very good prospect. Otherwise they would be smart to just wait until the trade deadline to worry about dumping their 1st as they will definitely get more than what you have offered.
Franson+Biggs/Granberg/Percy+Gardiner+1st for Edmonton's 1st?


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11-16-2013, 02:27 PM
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So the Oilers who are currently last in the league and have the first overall pick are going to trade it for Cody Franson?
yep and we have to be grateful for such a generous offer

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11-16-2013, 02:36 PM
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Really bad for Edmonton.

Potential 1st overall pick > Franson + 3rd

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