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11-15-2013, 09:22 PM
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Game #21 | Detroit Red Wings @ New York Islanders | 7:00 PM EST | FS-D ‎

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Game Information


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Team Comparison:
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20 GP 20
9 Wins 7
5 Losses 10
6 OTL 3
24 Points 17
0.600 P% 0.425
2.50 G/G 2.70
2.60 GA/G 3.10
20.3 PP% 19.1
86.3 PK% 73.4
8.6 PIM/G 11.9
30.6 S/G 29.8
30.6 SA/G 30.3
52.0 FO% 44.9


Previous game: Los Angeles Kings @ New York Islanders 3 - 2
Recap | Boxscore | Video | Photos

New York Islanders
In the spotlight:
Center Right Wing Center

Team Statistics:
Goals Scored Assist Points
Frans Nielsen (9) John Tavares (15) John Tavares (23)
Plus/Minus Goals Against Average Goalie Save Percentage
Kyle Okposo (+6) Kevin Poulin (2.45) Kevin Poulin (.914)
Wins Shut out wins Penalty Minutes
Evgeni Nabokov (5) -- (-) Matt Carkner (27)

Team Injuries:
Position Player Injury Status
LW Thomas Vanek Upper body Questionable
D Lubomir Visnovsky Concussion Out
D Brian Strait Upper body Out

Projected Lineup:
Left Wing Center Right Wing
Brock Nelson John Tavares Kyle Okposo
Pierre-Marc Bouchard Frans Nielsen Josh Bailey
Michael Grabner Peter Regin Colin McDonald
Matt Martin Casey Cizikas Cal Clutterbuck

Left Defenseman Right Defenseman
Travis Hamonic Andrew MacDonald
Matt Donovan Matt Carkner
Aaron Ness Thomas Hickey

Starting Goaltender


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Previous game: Washington Capitals @ Detroit Red Wings 4 - 3 SO
Recap | Boxscore | Video | Photos

Detroit Red Wings
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Right Wing Center Defenseman (R)

Team Statistics:
Goals Scored Assist Points
Henrik Zetterberg (10) Henrik Zetterberg (11) Henrik Zetterberg (21)
Plus/Minus Goals Against Average Goalie Save Percentage
Henrik Zetterberg (+10) Jonas Gustavsson (2.12) Jonas Gustavsson (.937)
Wins Shut out wins Penalty Minutes
Jimmy Howard (5) Jimmy Howard (1) Brendan Smith (19)

Team Injuries:
Position Player Injury Status
RW Daniel Alfredsson Groin Questionable
C Stephen Weiss Groin Out
D Brendan Smith Shoulder Out

Projected Lineup:
Left Wing Center Right Wing
Henrik Zetterberg Pavel Datsyuk Todd Bertuzzi
Tomas Tatar Darren Helm Johan Franzen
Daniel Cleary Joakim Andersson Justin Abdelkader
Drew Miller Luke Glendening Mikael Samulesson

Left Defenseman Right Defenseman
Niklas Kronwall Jonathan Ericsson
Danny DeKeyser Jakub Kindl
Brian Lashoff Kyle Quincey

Starting Goaltender

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Overview
Extra Information
Ansar Khan: Same issues continue to plague Red Wings at home, where they are winless in their past seven games
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DETROIT – Detroit Red Wings captain Henrik Zetterberg stood in the dressing room following Friday’s game feeling like he has fielded the same questions over and over the past two weeks.

Why can’t his team hold onto the lead? Why can’t it get a timely goal? Why can’t it win at home?

The Red Wings can’t get out of this rut. They squandered a two-goal lead in the third period and lost to the Washington Capitals 4-3 in a shootout at Joe Louis Arena, extending their home winless streak to seven games (0-1-6), their longest since the 1989-90 season.

Overall, the Red Wings are winless in five (0-1-4).

“Well, obviously we’re letting in goals that we shouldn’t let in and we’re not scoring on the chances that we’re creating,’’ Zetterberg said. “Again, we think we’re doing a lot of good things, but I feel like I’m standing here and repeating myself.

“I don’t know, there’s nothing else we can do. We have to keep trying to play for 60 minutes and we should win this game. We played good enough and (goaltender Jimmy Howard) was good enough.’’
...

“Same thing, same outcome but we can’t get frustrated, can’t get discouraged,’’ Howard said. “Somehow, some way keep a positive frame of mind and just continue to keep going out there and working because we’re doing a lot of good things. Mistakes happen, we’re just going to have to find a way to overcome them.’’

...

“Obviously, you’d like to have enough players but it worked out good, our rotation was fine,’’ Babcock said. “That had nothing to do with the game.’’

General manager Ken Holland said Alfredsson’s status for Saturday’s game at the New York Islanders will be determined in the morning. If Alfredsson can’t play, Holland said Luke Glendening will be inserted into the lineup. Glendening was recalled from the Grand Rapids Griffins on an emergency basis.


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Game Day!

Kronwall (#55) vs. Okposo (#21)
Helm escapes




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And so Mule's vacation starts :p

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Start a poll: Will they go into OT/SO tomorrow?

NYI goaltending isn't good, I hope they are able to beat them

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Great, we get to play our Kryptonite. We haven't beat the Isles since 07

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I'm gonna make a prediction here, I know this is a longshot, but I'm gonna go ahead and predict an OT/SO loss for the Wings

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Great, we get to play our Kryptonite. We haven't beat the Isles since 07
and whatever team we played didnt beat us at home in like 20 years. All streaks must come to and end.

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Tonight we'll win. After OT/SO ofcourse

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Another OT/SO loss incoming.. If Howard starts... If Gustavsson starts, wings win.

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GDT updated.

Somehow we're still 4th in the East. That's how broken the point system is. Rewarding mediocrity.

And just the opponent we need to get a win. The Islanders, a team that are looking to beat the Wings for a seventh time straight

I couldn't even find a Youtube clip worth putting in the GDT

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CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($3.500m)
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($1.750m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Luke Glendening ($0.575m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.630m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)
Brendan Smith ($1.263m) / Danny DeKeyser ($0.925m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
BUYOUTS
Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)
BURIED
Patrick Eaves ($0.275m)
Jordin Tootoo ($0.975m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.025m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2013-14 crunched using simulation date of 2013-11-16)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; BONUSES: $2,635,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$22,174

How do we recall Glendening?
I thought we only had enough cap to call up Emmerton?

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somebody going to LTIR?

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The more I look at our cap problems the more the solution points to dumping Quincey

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CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$22,174

How do we recall Glendening?
I thought we only had enough cap to call up Emmerton?
Yes, me too.

There could be a CBA "loophole" for those emergency callups, but I'm not sure. Maybe this case Alfredsson matches those criterias. But you can't play with that trick all the time.

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The Wings recalled Glendening from Grand Rapids to be on emergency recall if Alfredsson can't play tomorrow, Hollland said.

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But you can't play with that trick all the time.
Just watch Holland do it. He's gone a couple months using this LTIR trick. Now watch him do this.

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Bring up Cory.

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Just watch Holland do it. He's gone a couple months using this LTIR trick. Now watch him do this.
Yes, found the article, where the rule was.

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Provision 50.10(e) of the agreement is called the “roster emergency exception,” and it will allow, for the first time, teams to call up players that won’t count against the cap.

There are a pile of stipulations involved, as you can imagine:

1) Teams have to have less cap room than the league minimum salary (which is $550,000 this season) plus $100,000

2) A player has to become “unfit or unable to play” or be suspended

3) The team is unable to recall a player using the long-term injury provision

4) The team played its last game with fewer than 20 players (18 skaters and two goaltenders)

If those conditions are met, teams can then add players who make $650,000 or less “without any charge to the club’s averaged club salary for the duration of such roster emergency.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle14545832/

Like we have:

1) 545k of cap room (less than 650k limit at this season).
2) Alfredsson became unfit.
3) No one is in LTIR.
4) We played the Capitals game with 1 man short of 20 players.
5) We can add a player (like Glendening at 575k) that earns less than 650k.

This move saves some space next year's cap, because our daily figure will be 545k under the cap, but it saves a small part of Alfredsson's bonuses sliding to next year.


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Yes, found the article, where the rule was.



http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle14545832/

Like we have:

1) 545k of cap room (less than 650k limit at this season).
2) Alfredsson became unfit.
3) No one is in LTIR.
4) We played the Capitals game with 1 man short of 20 players.
5) We can add a player (like Glendening at 575k) that earns less than 650k.

This move saves some space next year's cap, because our daily figure will be 545k under the cap, but it saves a small part of Alfredsson's bonuses sliding to next year.
thanks for the info ... capgeek has glendening listed as an emergency recall. figure its only allowed for this game since we'll have 20 players tonight.

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thanks for the info ... capgeek has glendening listed as an emergency recall. figure its only allowed for this game since we'll have 20 players tonight.
Yeah, we would need another game with 11 forwards to use this possibility in another game.

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Just an FYI, error in NYI's stats leaders. Says Tavares has 23 assists and 23 points. Didn't bother to look it up but surely JT must have some goals...I hope?

Not confident for this game, maybe Franzen will still be putting effort in tonight

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The more I look at our cap problems the more the solution points to dumping Quincey

I agree 100%.

I do think Quincey can turn the corner a bit, but as a pending UFA I don't think he brings anything that the youth can't bring...and certainly not enough to outweigh the benefit of brining up Nyquist.

20 games into the situation, the solution is pretty obvious.

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So if Alfie still can't play, bring up Glendening? Nah we'll just let Nyquist rot in Grand Rapids. We don't need more scoring. I like are team. They've been realgud.

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So if Alfie still can't play, bring up Glendening? Nah we'll just let Nyquist rot in Grand Rapids. We don't need more scoring. I like are team. They've been realgud.
All this because they just couldn't resist signing Dan ****ing Cleary this summer, they should have just been happy and contempt with him signing in philly

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John Tavares doesn't have 23 assists, He has 15.

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4-0 red wings . Gustavsson blanks em. Offense scores. Quincey makes no mental errors. Am I dreaming?

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