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11-17-2013, 08:26 PM
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We don't really have any prospects to spare at this point. Kulemin + Liles for Laich + Beagle give or take should work as a hockey trade, any addition in value from washington would be just a tiny bit to even it out like the stuff the Leafs sent in addition to Blacker for Holland. As far as prospects most I'd be willing to spare are guys like Garret Mitchell or Patrick Wey, basically throw-ins that could potentially turn out to be NHLers.
Well how about Kulemin and Liles for Laich, Wey/Mitchell+ 4th (assuming the prospects are worth a little more than Beagle). Either that, or the original Kulemin and Liles for Laich, Beagle and 3rd but you also throw in a 7th or something while we throw in like Staubitz to throw off the depth.

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11-17-2013, 08:29 PM
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Yeah, and the Leafs currently have 3 mill in extra players, some of which will be sent down once these guys come back.
What does this mean?

Which extra players?

What $3M?

As I said in the post you quoted, they'll have to get rid of a player if Bozak comes back, so you can add that player cap hit to the wiggle room given by LTIR (which will go down to $1.47M).

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11-17-2013, 08:39 PM
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What does this mean?

Which extra players?

What $3M?

As I said in the post you quoted, they'll have to get rid of a player if Bozak comes back, so you can add that player cap hit to the wiggle room given by LTIR (which will go down to $1.47M).
840k from Ashton, 870k from Holland covers it right there, plus once Kadri comes back, we can send another 550k to the minors, with another 550k guy still left, and Rielly with 894k. Now this isn't 3 mill we can access all of, but there's a good 2 mill we can.

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11-17-2013, 08:46 PM
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840k from Ashton, 870k from Holland covers it right there, plus once Kadri comes back, we can send another 550k to the minors, with another 550k guy still left, and Rielly with 894k. Now this isn't 3 mill we can access all of, but there's a good 2 mill we can.
Kadri counts against the 23-man roster while he's suspended.

Sending Ashton, Holland and another $550K player away would leave the Leafs with a 20-man roster, plus Bozak when he comes back.

And what's the purpose of talking about another $550K player left plus Rielly's $894K?

You really want the Leafs to have a 19-man roster?

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11-17-2013, 08:50 PM
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What does this mean?

Which extra players?

What $3M?

As I said in the post you quoted, they'll have to get rid of a player if Bozak comes back, so you can add that player cap hit to the wiggle room given by LTIR (which will go down to $1.47M).
http://www.capgeek.com/mapleleafs/armchair-gm/

Take a look. That includes NK's cap hit. No way we have to waive anyone with Bozak coming back.

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11-17-2013, 08:52 PM
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Kadri counts against the 23-man roster while he's suspended.

Sending Ashton, Holland and another $550K player away would leave the Leafs with a 20-man roster, plus Bozak when he comes back.

And what's the purpose of talking about another $550K player left plus Rielly's $894K?

You really want the Leafs to have a 19-man roster?
If we need to, then yes. BTW I know Kadri does, and you only need 20 men on a team at a time. If we ever need a player, it's probably because of injury, and then we bring a guy up. Believe me, I think Nonis has the cap thing under control, so don't worry about it. Also, this isn't even about the topic, so drop it, or go somewhere else.

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http://www.capgeek.com/mapleleafs/armchair-gm/

Take a look. That includes NK's cap hit. No way we have to waive anyone with Bozak coming back.
Are you aware of the rules about roster size?

Obviously not.

Maximum is 23.

The Leafs presently have 23 (Bozak and Bolland don't count as they are on LTIR).

When Bozak comes back (which should be soon, unlike Bolland), that will take away $4.2M of their apparent cap space, and they'll have 24 players on their roster.

Ergo, they'll have to get rid of someone...

QED.

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2nd round?

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2nd round?
For all three?

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Are you aware of the rules about roster size?

Obviously not.

Maximum is 23.

The Leafs presently have 23 (Bozak and Bolland don't count as they are on LTIR).

When Bozak comes back (which should be soon, unlike Bolland), that will take away $4.2M of their apparent cap space, and they'll have 24 players on their roster.

Ergo, they'll have to get rid of someone...

QED.
Don't you see Holland and Rielly both can play at minor leagues? Phoenix fans already wanted a trade for Jerred Smithson for their PK problems. Any way there's always a trade before waivers.

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http://www.capgeek.com/mapleleafs/armchair-gm/

Take a look. That includes NK's cap hit. No way we have to waive anyone with Bozak coming back.
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Are you aware of the rules about roster size?

Obviously not.

Maximum is 23.

The Leafs presently have 23 (Bozak and Bolland don't count as they are on LTIR).

When Bozak comes back (which should be soon, unlike Bolland), that will take away $4.2M of their apparent cap space, and they'll have 24 players on their roster.

Ergo, they'll have to get rid of someone...

QED.
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Don't you see Holland and Rielly both can play at minor leagues? Phoenix fans already wanted a trade for Jerred Smithson for their PK problems. Any way there's always a trade before waivers.
I fail to see the connection between that post and what preceeded it.

One more try: maximum roster is 23.

Bozak coming back from LTIR will bring the roster to 24.

The Leafs will have to get rid of someone (trade/waiver/hit contract, etc...).

And Rielly cannot be sent to the minors: it's WHL or NHL.

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11-17-2013, 10:11 PM
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The preceeding led to the following:



I fail to see the connection between that post and what preceeded it.

One more try: maximum roster is 23.

Bozak coming back from LTIR will bring the roster to 24.

The Leafs will have to get rid of someone (trade/waiver/hit contract, etc...).

And Rielly cannot be sent to the minors: it's WHL or NHL.
SEND HIM TO THE WHL!!! FOLLOW MY SEND RIELLY TO THE WHL BANDWAGON I FORMED SINCE THE OFFSEASON I think he thinks you're saying they're going to have to waive someone, but he's saying you can trade instead? I actually don't know, and it's too late at night for me to actually make reason out of it. Just ask him

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11-18-2013, 09:16 AM
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For all three?
Seems about right...

Holzer = 0 value (can't even get picked up on waivers)
Liles= Negative value
Kulemin= late 1st/early 2nd

The negative value of Liles brings what would be a possible late 1st for Kulemin down to a 2nd.

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Seems about right...

Holzer = 0 value (can't even get picked up on waivers)
Liles= Negative value
Kulemin= late 1st/early 2nd

The negative value of Liles brings what would be a possible late 1st for Kulemin down to a 2nd.
Kulemin was never worth a first.

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