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11-18-2013, 12:03 PM
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Vancouver-Colorado (100% David Booth free)

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Alex Edler
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Ryan O'reilly
Ty Barrie

Why Colorado does this:
They get a top pairing D-man for EJ
Why Vancouver does this:
They get a top 6 forward and a replacement for Edler

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11-18-2013, 12:05 PM
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Why Colorado does this:
They get a top pairing D-man for EJ
Why Vancouver does this:
They get a top 6 forward and a replacement for Edler

Vancouver needs to add ROR + Wayne Simmonds.

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11-18-2013, 12:09 PM
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Vancouver needs to add.

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Vancouver needs to add.
What pieces would appeal to Sherman? We can throw in a second, too

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11-18-2013, 12:11 PM
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I don't think O'Reilly is available.

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I don't think O'Reilly is available.
As Ted 'the million dollar man' Diabiase once said, everyone's got a price.

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11-18-2013, 12:14 PM
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I don't think O'Reilly is available.
This Roy just gushes about the kid unless he's demanding more than Duchene got he'll stay. If ROR did force his way out something around Edler would makes sense, but hopefully we never get to that point.

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11-18-2013, 12:14 PM
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ROR's contract situation is a mess. Like him as a player but would absolutely hate to be negotiating an extension with that $6m+ qualifying offer hanging overhead.

Parting with major assets to acquire him and then being stuck with a player of his calibre at that cap hit (or worse, watching him walk in free agency over it) would be disastrous.

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11-18-2013, 12:16 PM
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Vancouver needs to add ROR + Wayne Simmonds.
You mean Kassian?

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11-18-2013, 12:22 PM
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As Ted 'the million dollar man' Diabiase once said, everyone's got a price.
In a theoretical sense every player in the league is available. In practice, O'Reilly probably isn't.

If Canucks want to go crazy trying to acquire a player that Roy loves, feel free to start over with a crazy proposal.

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11-18-2013, 12:25 PM
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Vancouver needs to add ROR + Wayne Simmonds.
i dont even understand this comment..

colorado is GIVING ROR and BARRIE

and you're saying vancouver needs to add ROR & SIMMONDS!?

so the trade is:

to Colorado: Edler, ROR, and Simmonds
to Vancouver: ROR and Barrie

???

what are you on?

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11-18-2013, 12:28 PM
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Why Colorado does this:
They get a top pairing D-man for EJ
Why Vancouver does this:
They get a top 6 forward and a replacement for Edler
ROR can not be traded till the deadline

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11-18-2013, 12:29 PM
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What pieces would appeal to Sherman? We can throw in a second, too
I think Sherman would just be happy you know his name.

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As Ted 'the million dollar man' Diabiase once said, everyone's got a price.
Roy gushes about ROR. Get ready to overpay by a mile.

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11-18-2013, 12:38 PM
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i dont even understand this comment..

colorado is GIVING ROR and BARRIE

and you're saying vancouver needs to add ROR & SIMMONDS!?

so the trade is:

to Colorado: Edler, ROR, and Simmonds
to Vancouver: ROR and Barrie

???

what are you on?
If you a. assume the poster is not a complete moron who is unable to string a sentence together and b. make the slightest effort to infer a coherent thought from that post, what he is probably saying is that ROR is a player the Canucks should add to their team (and so is Wayne Simmonds).

It's an off topic observation of course but assuming that the poster meant the Canucks should trade away the player they are acquiring back to his original deal, in the same deal in which they're acquiring him (plus another player who plays for neither teams) is either lazy or stupid to a level that is simply absurd.

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11-18-2013, 12:41 PM
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Cut out the (very slight) homer goggles from OP and just make it straight up.

Vancouver gets ROR and can look for a cheap 3rd pairing offensive LHD at the deadline to replace Edler's PP role if needed.

Colorado gets Edler to play big minutes on the top pair and can look for a cheap tweener to replace some of what ROR's absence will leave. And they can still resign Stastny (I know ROR has been playing wing) to keep their center depth.

And both fix the biggest issue on their respective teams without opening a gaping hole.

The NTC is a potential roadblock, but Edler plays in the league, he's not dumb. He knows which team has the brighter future 3-5 years from now.

If in Colorado I probably do everything I can to keep ROR and find a UFA defenseman or two first though. Vancouver should be making this deal straight up, let alone with Avalanche adding a good prospect.

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11-18-2013, 12:45 PM
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If you a. assume the poster is not a complete moron who is unable to string a sentence together and b. make the slightest effort to infer a coherent thought from that post, what he is probably saying is that ROR is a player the Canucks should add to their team (and so is Wayne Simmonds).

It's an off topic observation of course but assuming that the poster meant the Canucks should trade away the player they are acquiring back to his original deal, in the same deal in which they're acquiring him (plus another player who plays for neither teams) is either lazy or stupid to a level that is simply absurd.

you never know who you're dealing with ! the problem with having a site that is accessible to the masses is that you might get a few bad apples along the way ... but i did laugh at your comment though

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Cut out the (very slight) homer goggles from OP and just make it straight up.

Vancouver gets ROR and can look for a cheap 3rd pairing offensive LHD at the deadline to replace Edler's PP role if needed.

Colorado gets Edler to play big minutes on the top pair and can look for a cheap tweener to replace some of what ROR's absence will leave. And they can still resign Stastny (I know ROR has been playing wing) to keep their center depth.

And both fix the biggest issue on their respective teams without opening a gaping hole.

The NTC is a potential roadblock, but Edler plays in the league, he's not dumb. He knows which team has the brighter future 3-5 years from now.

If in Colorado I probably do everything I can to keep ROR and find a UFA defenseman or two first though. Vancouver should be making this deal straight up, let alone with Avalanche adding a good prospect.
yeah, imo ROR straight up isn't enough and plus Barrie is too much.

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11-18-2013, 12:48 PM
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How about Edler + Canucks 1st round pick for O'Reilly? Little closer on value as the Avs will have to be a bit blown away to make the deal.

Vancouver makes it to put O'Reilly with Kesler on the second line - O'Reilly at the centre position with his left-hand shooting to Kesler's right, these two would be dynamite together. Also this gives Tanev more minutes to eat up and allow him to become a bigger part of the team.

Avs make it to give EJ some help as well as getting another big shot on the blueline & a 1st pick which certainly won't be high but maybe they can use as a chip at the deadline.

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11-18-2013, 12:53 PM
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Everyone has a different value on players. I'd argue if you don't think ROR is worth Edler you haven't watched him enough. His play has made me and many fans forget the whole negotiation. Many were hoping he was shipped off last year. He walks on water now.

He plays in all situations. The growth increments ROR has gone through as a young player are mind blowing when you consider what kind of numbers he put up in juniors. And he's done this without sacrificing any of his skill or ability in other areas of the game.

I might sound crazy, as I do think Edler would be a great addition to the Avs, but i'm not even sure i'd do a 1 for 1 trade at this point.

I see ROR staying with Dutchy for along time.

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How about Edler + Canucks 1st round pick for O'Reilly? Little closer on value as the Avs will have to be a bit blown away to make the deal.

Vancouver makes it to put O'Reilly with Kesler on the second line - O'Reilly at the centre position with his left-hand shooting to Kesler's right, these two would be dynamite together. Also this gives Tanev more minutes to eat up and allow him to become a bigger part of the team.

Avs make it to give EJ some help as well as getting another big shot on the blueline & a 1st pick which certainly won't be high but maybe they can use as a chip at the deadline.
Edler + 1st for ROR alone?

Edler for ROR is good value on both sides but favours Colorado a bit. That being said I'd still do it as the Avs aren't going to let him go for fair market value. The Canucks definitely don't add anymore here though.

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How about Edler + Canucks 1st round pick for O'Reilly? Little closer on value as the Avs will have to be a bit blown away to make the deal.

Vancouver makes it to put O'Reilly with Kesler on the second line - O'Reilly at the centre position with his left-hand shooting to Kesler's right, these two would be dynamite together. Also this gives Tanev more minutes to eat up and allow him to become a bigger part of the team.

Avs make it to give EJ some help as well as getting another big shot on the blueline & a 1st pick which certainly won't be high but maybe they can use as a chip at the deadline.
Vancouver wouldn't do Edler straight up for ROR. Why on earth would they add a 1st?

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11-18-2013, 01:11 PM
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Edler's a good player, but I really wouldn't do ROR for Edler 1-on-1 and I'm not sure a late first is worth losing him, he's not just a first line winger for us, he's not just a perfect partner for Duchene, he's the type of piece that other teams just don't have and he has yet to stop improving significantly every year.

I'd much rather hold onto ROR and address our defense either in FA, or using picks, prospects and guys like wilson to find a vet to fill the job, like Erhoff or Campbell if they are made available at some point. If our prospects aren't good enough to then replace Hejda and Campbell/Erhoff in a few years, then we look at making a big trade, once we've had time for our current prospects to develop while stocking up over the next few drafts.

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