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07-24-2005, 11:03 PM
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Antropov

How does everyone think Antropov will do this year?

The NHL is about to become a more wide open game. Extra Room inside the blue lines, and skating ability is going to become more important. Nik is not known for his skating ability and this may hurt him this season. On the other hand he's another year older and more mature. He may have a big season.

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07-24-2005, 11:08 PM
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I simply thought he was just too lazy before, ie backchecking and what not... but you never know, could surprise a few. I sure hope that's the case anyway... any improvement, is just that, an improvement.

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How does everyone think Antropov will do this year?

The NHL is about to become a more wide open game. Extra Room inside the blue lines, and skating ability is going to become more important. Nik is not known for his skating ability and this may hurt him this season. On the other hand he's another year older and more mature. He may have a big season.
People are over focusing on the new rules IMO ..

You still need size and strength to work the boards and dig out pucks .. You need big forwards to go to the front of the net on the PP and take the beating and screen the goalie ..

On the PP your skating speed is almost irrelevant in fact once your are in the zone and set up .

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People are over focusing on the new rules IMO ..

You still need size and strength to work the boards and dig out pucks .. You need big forwards to go to the front of the net on the PP and take the beating and screen the goalie ..

On the PP your skating speed is almost irrelevant in fact once your are in the zone and set up .
Well said! And the lack of obstruction will help slow players as well, possibly even more than it will help fast players. Ultimately though, we won't know how the changes will work until we see it in action over an extended period of time.

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I think the NHL is going to be serious this time arround about zero tolerance on obstruction. If this holds true you will see one of two things. Antropov making many trips to the penalty box for water skiing or players going arround him like he where a marker in a down hill ski race. Especially if you throw in the fact there is no red line.

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I think the NHL is going to be serious this time arround about zero tolerance on obstruction. If this holds true you will see one of two things. Antropov making many trips to the penalty box for water skiing or players going arround him like he where a marker in a down hill ski race. Especially if you throw in the fact there is no red line.
This would be more of a concern for me if he were a defenceman.

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Well said! And the lack of obstruction will help slow players as well, possibly even more than it will help fast players. Ultimately though, we won't know how the changes will work until we see it in action over an extended period of time.
I think teams might put more value say on Kariya speed verses another's goal scoring if money is equal ..

But you will still need balance on a line .. A power forward .. a playmaker and perhaps a goal scorer .. Their size may not be that much of an issue under the new NHL ..

Some teams will put more emphasis on speed while others may still like size and strength ..

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He cant skate, alot of his gmae is hooking and grabbing, with the new rules and if the Ref's call the penalties he could be in the box more than hes on the ice.

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that is true, he is a lazy player, often takes stupid penalties

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In the words of my friend "An-drop-off"..sounds so much like his name. lol

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He just played the no red-line game, on the bigger ice.

He is probably one of the top 3 passers on the Leafs, and without the red-line that is a skill that will come in handy.

He isn't quick, but he is quite fast at top end, so perhaps the no-redline will also help since he won't have to start from a stop at center, but can carry his speed forward.

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07-25-2005, 05:11 AM
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I became a big fan of Big Nik after seeing him in the RSL

remind you: no injuries, reduced number of stupid penalties (reduced almost to zero), tons of icetime with great linemates, the Tkachenko-Yashin-Antropov line was one of the best in the RSL, he was a player of the month

his skating looks awfull, but he still has some decent speed No mather how ugly it looks!! He has soft hands, he is a great passer... Its gonna be a great year for Big Nik

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The open game may hurt him from an acceleration standpoint, but it could also open up lanes because he had good ice vision and is capable of making nice passes. He also has good one on one moves which should come in handy with the extra room in the offensive zones.

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his skating (conditioning) must improve

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20 goals and 40 points. I'm sure he'll work hard to get back on the second line.

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07-25-2005, 11:00 AM
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I think he's either gunna break out with a 50-60 point season (which is what I personally think will happen...)

Or he's going to struggle to a 30 point season and the Leafs will either trade him, or depending on the contract he gets, lets him go after the year is done.

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07-25-2005, 03:38 PM
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With Antopov anything is possible... he could be great or he could be the Antropuff we know from the playoffs...

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Or he's going to struggle to a 30 point season
well, since he's never "struggled" to get 30 points in any other season, I don't know why he'd start now, now that he's healthier than ever, and coming off a very nice season in Russia.

The only question with Nik is health, and ever since he had that shoulder injury at the beginning of last season, he hasn't had any health problems....not through the rest of the year in Toronto, and not through the whole year in Russia.

The worst he's going to give the team is a 15-goal, 40-point physical player with very good defensive abilities.

I'd say 20-goals and 50-points is more likely, though.

And that could become 25-goals and 60-points fairly easily.

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No less than 55 points from Big Nik this coming season. Book it.

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07-25-2005, 05:06 PM
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i'm calling for 57pts in 72gms.

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i'm calling for 57pts in 72gms.
Agreed if he is playing in russia .

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I'd be happy if he was able to play 72 games. Seems like he's been hurt alot over the years.

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Since he played so well with Yashin, think Mad Mike would have any interest?

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We've seen glimpses of the great player he could be. He still has the talent it takes to be that great player. I say he puts up 50 pts this year and becomes a 50 to 65 point per year player in the future.

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Am I the only one who'd like to see him moved back to center

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