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02-24-2014, 11:56 AM
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Buffalo Defense for Scoring Wingers

Buffalo has a surplus of defenseman, both waiting and current players.

Myers, Ehrhoff, Risto, and Zadorov most likely wont be moved.

Pysyk, McNabb, McCabe, Ruhwedle

Who would you be willing to trade 1 for 1 or maybe 2 for 1?

Looking for young scoring wingers in return.

Example of what Tampa and Buffalo talk aobut Pysyk for Killorn or McNabb for Connolly etc.

What can other teams offer?

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Edmonton is exactly the team that needs to make a winger for dmen trade, however our good wingers value is far greater then the available list but our crappy wingers are not good enough to get the ones in the available list

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02-24-2014, 12:02 PM
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Edmonton is exactly the team that needs to make a winger for dmen trade, however our good wingers value is far greater then the available list but our crappy wingers are not good enough to get the ones in the available list
Yeah I would love to move for Eberle. That would be a Myers deal.

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McNabb for Gagner? Gags can play the wing.

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Stop chasing wingers. Wings are the easiest position to acquire. Centers can make the transition, there are always plenty of wingers available in UFA, and we have eleventy billion draft picks in the top two rounds over the next two drafts. I'm not about to start trading a scarcity (right-handed defensemen who can play) for 2nd line wingers, of which there are always an abundance available.

If we want to talk about a deal for 1st line wingers like Eberle, that's fine. But enough of this Killorn-for-Pysyk stuff. The only defenseman I'd consider moving for a 2nd line winger is McNabb, because I don't think McNabb is in the long-term plans and he's going to be caught in a numbers crunch very soon (if he isn't already).

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02-24-2014, 12:11 PM
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Stop chasing wingers. Wings are the easiest position to acquire. Centers can make the transition, there are always plenty of wingers available in UFA, and we have eleventy billion draft picks in the top two rounds over the next two drafts. I'm not about to start trading a scarcity (right-handed defensemen who can play) for 2nd line wingers, of which there are always an abundance available.

If we want to talk about a deal for 1st line wingers like Eberle, that's fine. But enough of this Killorn-for-Pysyk stuff. The only defenseman I'd consider moving for a 2nd line winger is McNabb, because I don't think McNabb is in the long-term plans and he's going to be caught in a numbers crunch very soon (if he isn't already).
Exactly my reason for the thread.

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McNabb for Gagner? Gags can play the wing.
I could see this working.

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As an Amerk season ticket holder, Mcnabb is not getting you a 2nd line winger. Hes just way too slow for the NHL. He will never be more than a bottom paring guy at best.

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McNabb for Gagner? Gags can play the wing.
What exactly has McNabb done at the NHL level to indicate he can return anything more than a moderate prospect or maybe a 4th liner? He's already 23 and he is sitting in the AHL on the team with the worst record in the NHL. Gagner for him? PLEASE.


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Zadorov for Tatar+1st

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Zadorov for Tatar+1st
Zadorov isn't going anywhere IMO.

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Zadorov for Tatar+1st
Only way Myers, Risto or Zadorov are moved is for a proven goal scorer. No need to move them for multiple pieces.

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What exactly has McNabb done at the NHL level to indicate he can return anything more than a moderate prospect or maybe a 4th liner? He's already 23 and he is sitting in the AHL on the team with the worst record in the NHL. Gagner for him? PLEASE.

Keep Gagner then.

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Only way Myers, Risto or Zadorov are moved is for a proven goal scorer. No need to move them for multiple pieces.
Define proven goal scorer

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Define proven goal scorer
Deals for guys like Eberle.

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Stop chasing wingers. Wings are the easiest position to acquire. Centers can make the transition, there are always plenty of wingers available in UFA, and we have eleventy billion draft picks in the top two rounds over the next two drafts. I'm not about to start trading a scarcity (right-handed defensemen who can play) for 2nd line wingers, of which there are always an abundance available.

If we want to talk about a deal for 1st line wingers like Eberle, that's fine. But enough of this Killorn-for-Pysyk stuff. The only defenseman I'd consider moving for a 2nd line winger is McNabb, because I don't think McNabb is in the long-term plans and he's going to be caught in a numbers crunch very soon (if he isn't already).
The above coupled with the OP:
"... Risto... most likely wont be moved."
and
"Pysyk" [is in play].

Stepan + Callahan + Stralman
for
Ristolainen + Pysyk + _____ (fill in the blank).

Can anything work?
Would prefer to keep JT Miller as C for our do not touch foundations, Kreider, and McDonagh.

But would consider the correct add for the above deal.

Til later today.

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02-24-2014, 12:38 PM
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You do realize that not every defensman you listed will reach their potential right?

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Zadorov for Tatar+1st
No thanks

I'd rather have Zadorov than Tatar and a late 1st.

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You do realize that not every defensman you listed will reach their potential right?
You do realize i never said they did or will. Just looking for wingers with the same potential...

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You do realize i never said they did or will. Just looking for wingers with the same potential...
why not be patient and draft those players shall we?

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why not be patient and draft those players shall we?
Its all to see whats out there. Not saying we have to.

I would definitely think that Murray is looking to move one of his defenseman for a forward.

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Deals for guys like Eberle.
So a young guy who puts up about 20-25 goals usually?

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Its all to see whats out there. Not saying we have to.

I would definitely think that Murray is looking to move one of his defenseman for a forward.
I don't think so. I've said it before and I'll say it again. What happens if Myers regresses again? Pysyk gets dealt and Zadorov decides to bolt to the KHL? Although it isn't a very likely scenario every option must be considered. Getting defensman is the hardest part of a rebuild, look at the teams who successfully rebuilt and won a cup: Pitt found a gem in Letang, acquired Martin and Gonchar via trades/FA. Chicago found Hjalmarsson and Keith in later rounds, Boston signed Chara via free agency. Defense is by far the hardest part of building a contender, and now that we have the ground work, why not keep that and build from it? Look at Myers, we just went through three seasons of actual pain to see him perform well, we're finally seeing it pay off. Or the Oilers, who found forwards and have to wait for their D prospects to develop. We're in a great situation on the back end, trading these guys is just impatient and foolish imo. Let them grow.

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No thanks

I'd rather have Zadorov than Tatar and a late 1st.
Detroit's first is looking to be it's highest in 20 years. 10-15

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Keep Gagner then.
I'm not an Edmonton fan. I just don't see how you could think these two are in any way equivalent.


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I think your GM would jump on that one even if you wouldn't. Tatar, also 23, is really making inroads in his first full season in Detroit (0.5 PPG) and is exactly the type of skilled forward you should be wanting. Watch him play a couple of times and then see if you still wouldn't do it.

And a first is a lot on top of it too. With Zetterberg out for the year Detroit will likely miss the playoffs so that #1 could around #15 or higher.

Sounds like you get the better of that deal EASILY.

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