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11-27-2013, 02:12 AM
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The deal says the Stanley Cup final will be on CBC, anybody knows if it's just the final or all playoff rounds? I have to say I absolutly love CBC pre-game montage in playoff. It would be a big lost if they disapear


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11-27-2013, 03:21 AM
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The deal says the Stanley Cup final will be on CBC, anybody knows if it's just the final or all playoff rounds? I have to say I absolutly love CBC pre-game montage in playoff. It would be a big lost if they disapear
yeah their pre-game montages are the best TBH

Now are we gonna have more NBA and soccer on TSN and RDS ?

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11-27-2013, 05:23 AM
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The deal says the Stanley Cup final will be on CBC, anybody knows if it's just the final or all playoff rounds? I have to say I absolutly love CBC pre-game montage in playoff. It would be a big lost if they disapear
I believe they said all of the Stanley Cup playoffs would be on CBC.

Agreed on the montages they do. It's probably the thing I'm most upset about losing

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11-27-2013, 05:37 AM
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He already has that, without investing half a billion.
Games of the league will never attract as many people as games with the Nordiques involve. He could show all the Florida vs Nashville games....it's not the same.

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11-27-2013, 05:38 AM
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Bell cannot own the Nordiques as they already own 37.5% of the Maple Leafs and no one can own over 20% of two teams per NHL by-laws.
They could sell their Leafs share even though they are indeed making a whole lot of dough.....I mean, at one point, with that deal, you have to think that Bell will do something. Not that I care but just wondering...

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So, I guess in a way it will cost us a bit more, as TSN will keep the CFL rights.... so if we wanna be able to see both, we'll need to keep TSN and add SN....

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11-27-2013, 07:21 AM
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How about watching all the HNIC habs games on CBC, the rest on RDS? National games are just the ones on weekends and the playoffs, the rest of the rights are sold by the Montreal Canadiens not the NHL, which means that Bell who was a partner of the purchase of the team will get them.

The story is a little darker for TSN since Rogers own 37.5% of the Leafs (Teachers sold their shares to Bell & Rogers)

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I wonder why peoples associate this deal with the end of PKP Nordiques ambition. Do you know what better than 20 nights of content for one sports channel? 82 nights of content for one sports channel and do you know what even better than 82 nights of content for one sports channel? 164 nights of content for two sports channel!
Yeah people are confused. ROGERS purchased the national hockey game broadcasting rights. Not TVA. TVA got the bid from Rogers to broadcast all national habs games in french in Canada. CBC got the english ones. That's it.


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Per Pierre Dion, president of TVA, on 98.5 FM this morning : The 5.2 billions bid includes a the right to get all 82 Habs game (nationals and regionals) but it's the NHL and Montreal Canadiens that will decide to whom those games will be offered.

Another source (Michel Villeneuve) tells that RDS doenst have the money to get all the 60 games so they'll probably get about half of them. Dunno if there is any credibility to that source tough

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11-27-2013, 07:52 AM
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Per Pierre Dion, president of TVA, on 98.5 FM this morning : The 5.2 billions bid includes a the right to get all 82 Habs game (nationals and regionals) but it's the NHL and Montreal Canadiens that will decide to whom those games will be offered.

Another source (Michel Villeneuve) tells that RDS doenst have the money to get all the 60 games so they'll probably get about half of them. Dunno if there is any credibility to that source tough

I don't know if RDS would have the money, but what isn't stopping Bell from purchasing those games for RDS?

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11-27-2013, 08:28 AM
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I am shocked that Bell is basically being shoved out. Shocked.
Reeks of anti-competition and there are laws against that.

What I'd be curious to find out is who were the other bidders who were allowed in? If we don't get a list of names, we can assume Rogers might have been the only ones and that's quite fishy.

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Reeks of anti-competition and there are laws against that.

What I'd be curious to find out is who were the other bidders who were allowed in? If we don't get a list of names, we can assume Rogers might have been the only ones and that's quite fishy.
Uh, how many bidders could there possibly be for a national broadcasting rights contact in Canada? Rogers, CBC, TSN/CTV , who else?

This isn't rocket science , money talks . CBC, TSN, and Rogers were all interested, someone had to win.

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Uh, how many bidders could there possibly be for a national broadcasting rights contact in Canada? Rogers, CBC, TSN/CTV , who else?

This isn't rocket science , money talks . CBC, TSN, and Rogers were all interested, someone had to win.
CBC is out of the question. They had zero chance at even matching or coming close to the Rogers offer.

The only two companeis that had a chance are Bell and Rogers because they own everyone.

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How about watching all the HNIC habs games on CBC, the rest on RDS? National games are just the ones on weekends and the playoffs, the rest of the rights are sold by the Montreal Canadiens not the NHL, which means that Bell who was a partner of the purchase of the team will get them.

The story is a little darker for TSN since Rogers own 37.5% of the Leafs (Teachers sold their shares to Bell & Rogers)



Yeah people are confused. ROGERS purchased the national hockey game broadcasting rights. Not TVA. TVA got the bid from Rogers to broadcast all national habs games in french in Canada. CBC got the english ones. That's it.
ROGERS purchased all the NHL national rights for Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday games in French and English for $5.2B. Rogers Media president said there was talk of creating a French channel but instead they decided to sell the French rights to Quebecor's Group TVA for an undisclosed amount. ROGERS effectively owns Hockey Night in Canada but will keep some games on CBC alive. CBC will not pay for those rights but all the revenues generated from the games will go to ROGERS. ROGERS will also control on-air talent for CBC during HNIC. (Similar to what RDS did with SRC in 2003 and 2004)

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11-27-2013, 09:58 AM
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I believe they said all of the Stanley Cup playoffs would be on CBC.

Agreed on the montages they do. It's probably the thing I'm most upset about losing
The Stanley Cup Playoffs will be split between all of Rogers channels and CBC. The Stanley Cup Final will probably be simulcast between CBC and Sportsnet.

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ROGERS purchased all the NHL national rights for Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday games in French and English for $5.2B. Rogers Media president said there was talk of creating a French channel but instead they decided to sell the French rights to Quebecor's Group TVA for an undisclosed amount. ROGERS effectively owns Hockey Night in Canada but will keep some games on CBC alive. CBC will not pay for those rights but all the revenues generated from the games will go to ROGERS. ROGERS will also control on-air talent for CBC during HNIC. (Similar to what RDS did with SRC in 2003 and 2004)
If this is correct. Why wouldn't TSN be able to show hockey games on Tuesday or Thursday or Friday?
Nevermind. I get it. Those games are regional games that are controlled by the respective teams and signed with other networks.

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If this is correct. Why wouldn't TSN be able to show hockey games on Tuesday or Thursday or Friday?
They would have to purchase regional rights.

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If this is correct. Why wouldn't TSN be able to show hockey games on Tuesday or Thursday or Friday?
Because the rest of the week is only regional games. (In Canada)

TSN would only be able to broadcast them in their regional feeds like TSN-Jets or TSN-Leafs etc. National TSN feed will not show any NHL games for the next 12 years. (Unless they make a deal with Rogers later on)

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They would have to purchase regional rights.
Yep, forgot about the rules to regional rights.
There must be atleast ONE team with no regional rights.

Anyone know if in Montreal, there is only ONE regional right or are there two for English and French?

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Yep, forgot about the rules to regional rights.
There must be atleast ONE team with no regional rights.
The Habs regional rights are up for grabs in English and French. Bell could buy those rights and put them on RDS and TSN-Habs. However RDS would not be able to broadcast the games across Canada anymore and would only be limited to broadcast them in the Habs region.

Heck even Rogers could buy the regional Habs rights and put some games on Sportsnet East or sell some games to TVA.

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CBC is out of the question. They had zero chance at even matching or coming close to the Rogers offer.

The only two companeis that had a chance are Bell and Rogers because they own everyone.
True. But yesterday as I received my news alert of the Rogers deal, I was literally reading a Globe story about how the CBC was zeroing in on a $200M/year deal for exclusive rights. Rogers must have dropped their bomb into those talks because the price doubled. Obviously the CBC story was nonsense as they would have at that time been in some sort of written agreement to their relationship with Sportsnet for HNIC.

The devil is in the details, but I like the deal in principle. Better access to hockey, stability for 12 years and now our public broadcaster can focus on a public broadcasting mandate. I don't get some of the conspiracy theories and worrying going on here about production quality or schedules. Rogers paid big bucks to get hockey games onto the airwaves I doubt they are going to subject themselves to criticism by the fans.

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I have Sportsnet 360, TSN, RDS, TVA and CBC. Am I covered for Habs game coverage?

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I have Sportsnet 360, TSN, RDS, TVA and CBC. Am I covered for Habs game coverage?
You should probably get TVA Sports to be safe.

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I have Sportsnet 360, TSN, RDS, TVA and CBC. Am I covered for Habs game coverage?
Most likely. You will probably have to add TVA sports as I'm sure they will broadcast a few games on it to force people to add the channel to their TV package.

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You should probably get TVA Sports to be safe.
Ok Thanks.

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