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11-27-2013, 03:10 PM
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The Schenns to the Leafs - what would you guys want back?

Hello Flyer Fans. So, suppose the Leafs wanted Luke and Brayden. What would you want back? Just curious...it was being kicked around on the Leafs board...JVR maybe? Sorry, little joke there. Although, JVR for Luke and Brayden doesn't sound like something I would jump at as a Leaf fan, so maybe it's about right?

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Absolutely not doing the Schenns for JVR. it essentially admitting we lost that trade (which we probably did, although it's very early). Not even Holmgren is that quick to make a move. But hey at least you didn't propose Gardiner for both of them.

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We like bad-decent prospects here...

Just to let you know. I feel we will be on the same wavelength.

In all seriousness though Brayden is frankly producing at the same rate (actually slightly higher this year (PPG last year and this) as JVR at the same age, with almost exactly the same minutes and is less streaky and tougher... though he needs to become more involved consistently and assert himself. But he is not as frustrating as JVR was at his age!

So basically I would not want to trade Brayden for JVR... even though I like JVR and feel that management/Lavi never let him become the 60-70 point player he obviously was... 15 mins a game is not how to let someone reach their potential.

Schenn age 20: 0.33 PPG (27PPY)
JVR age 20-21: 0.44 PPG (36PPY)

Schenn age 21: 0.55 PPG (45PPY)
JVR age 21-22: 0.53 PPG (44PPY)

Schenn age 22: 0.61 PPG (50PPY
JVR age 22-23: 0.56 PPG (46PPY)


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Absolutely not doing the Schenns for JVR. it essentially admitting we lost that trade (which we probably did, although it's very early). Not even Holmgren is that quick to make a move. But hey at least you didn't propose Gardiner for both of them.
Yeah, not trolling, I could see the Schenns fitting in well, plus my 2 boys love them. It was a sad day when the trade was made, and my oldest still won't take Schenn off his jersey (his name is Luke). They play road hockey as Luke and Brayden all the time...

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No to Liles...bad contract and it would be a dump for TO.

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If I'm the GM, sold. Were you being sarcastic?

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If I'm the GM, sold. Were you being sarcastic?
I certainly hope he was
The problem with this whole trading of the Schenn's is you are taking two roster players(Brayden and Luke) which rarely ever happens in the NHL in a single trade.

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Gardiner and Kadri back to Philly and you've got a deal!

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i'd do both Schenns for Morgan Reilly.

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Hello Flyer Fans. So, suppose the Leafs wanted Luke and Brayden. What would you want back? Just curious...it was being kicked around on the Leafs board...JVR maybe? Sorry, little joke there. Although, JVR for Luke and Brayden doesn't sound like something I would jump at as a Leaf fan, so maybe it's about right?
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Van fan hijacking the thread but I didn't think I should start a new one. I feel like this idea may have been tossed around on the trades board but I forget the response from Philli fans

Edler for the Schenn brothers

I know Edler has a NTC but I think this is a fair deal, but I don't know enough of Braydens potential to say.

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i really want to rid this team of schenns.

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Edler for the Schenns isn't a bad proposal. I might be interested in that depending on how Brayden's performing at the deadline. The only reason I am entertaining this is because we're going to have a bigger role to fill when Timonen departs than is presented by rading either of them.

That said, our defense has looked pretty good this year and our offense is mediocre at best right now and Brayden's current production plus upside make him a neccesity. I'm also sort of married to this duo after we gave up Richards and JVR for the two of them (+Simmonds and a 2nd).

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12-01-2013, 12:45 AM
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i'd do both Schenns for Morgan Reilly.
You're a smart man. Rielly is a future all-star with the potential to be Top 10-15 at his position (think a future Duncan Keith). The same cannot be said about either Schenn.

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Van fan hijacking the thread but I didn't think I should start a new one. I feel like this idea may have been tossed around on the trades board but I forget the response from Philli fans

Edler for the Schenn brothers

I know Edler has a NTC but I think this is a fair deal, but I don't know enough of Braydens potential to say.
This is the -12 Edler with the $5mil contract that the entire Vancouver fanbase want to ship out?

You might get one Schenn.



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12-01-2013, 06:54 AM
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I almost want to trade the Schenns just so I can stop reading trade proposals with them involved.

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12-01-2013, 01:18 PM
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i doubt the Leafs could get the return they think they could get for Gardiner.

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i really want to rid this team of schenns.
yeah lets trade em both for a 7th and a PTNL

who replaces the Schenns? Superstar Jason Akeson and Alt? lirl

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i'd do both Schenns for Morgan Reilly.
There would have to be something else coming back with Reilly. I don't see how his value is that much higher than B. Schenn's at the moment.


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There would have to be something else coming back with Reilly. I don't see how his value is that much higher than B. Schenn's at the moment.

That's why I said Morgan Reilly+ earlier in the thread.

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i really want to rid this team of schenns.
Why?

Brayden is probably going to be a 55-65 point player in his prime. That's 2nd line/first line type production.

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