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07-26-2005, 04:06 PM
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TSN: Ducks Are Shopping the 2nd Overall Pick

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The Pittsburgh Penguins have no intention of trading the first overall pick in Saturday's NHL entry draft, but the finalist in the Sidney Crosby Sweepstakes is shopping the second overall pick, and shopping it hard.
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"I've already gotten eight to 10 calls but I haven't heard anything so far that would cause us to move it, not even close," the Mighty Ducks' GM told TSN. "We will shop this pick. We have a lot of kids ready to step in for us -- Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Joffrey Lupul and Ladislav Smid -- and if we can trade the (No. 2) pick outright for an established player who is a good fit for us, we will do it. And if we get offers to move down a few spots and we can get another (draft) pick, we can do that too. It's really wide open. We want to see what's out there."
Wonder if Sather made a call from the boat?

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Wonder if Sather made a call from the boat?
It would probably be Don Maloney making that call anyway.

What would it take to get that pick. Our 1st, one of our 2nds and a high prospect probably.

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It would probably be Don Maloney making that call anyway.

What would it take to get that pick. Our 1st, one of our 2nds and a high prospect probably.

Maybe...Our 1st, two 2nd rounders and Tyutin. We pick up Johnson to replace Tyutin.....

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07-26-2005, 04:15 PM
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obviously i would love to see the rangers move up to #2, but i think it's about 1 in a million that they have what it takes. #16 is a huge drop, and if the ducks want an "established player" who do the rangers have besides jagr, who is a question mark at this point?

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Sounds unusual, I thought Jack Johnson would be a perfect fit. Burke drafted Pronger, traded for Jovanovski, seems to like tall two way D-men, I guess they already think they have that guy in Smid, last years 1st rounder. I think they want a Center and will move down a few places and grab Brule or Kopitar.

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Maybe...Our 1st, two 2nd rounders and Tyutin. We pick up Johnson to replace Tyutin.....

Yeah but what does that really do for us?

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Yeah but what does that really do for us?
Nothing...there's a chance Tyutin can be better than Johnson anyway

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Yeah but what does that really do for us?
Gives us the upgrade from a 2-3 Dman, to a Franchise Dman (Assuming he reaches his potential)

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Maybe...Our 1st, two 2nd rounders and Tyutin. We pick up Johnson to replace Tyutin.....
I wouldn't do that... Trade a guy who's virtually ready to step in, plus a first and TWO seconds for a guy who's at best 2-3 years away, (Johnson) and there's no guarantee he'll be any better than Tyutin. Maybe if you downgraded it to Pock or Kondratiev, but still think the 2 seconds are too much. And even if that worked, I don't think I'd go with Johnson for the pick b/c I think we are really weak in the scoring dept. and if you pick in the top 5, it should be a top level scorer unless the guy is a Leetch or Pronger. Just my 2 cents

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Maybe...Our 1st, two 2nd rounders and Tyutin. We pick up Johnson to replace Tyutin.....
I'd say we lose that deal. If we are looking to move up I'd imagine its to the 4-9 spot to land a scoring potential 1st line prospect.

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07-26-2005, 05:10 PM
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There really isn't a trade that makes much sense...

for the Ducks. Seems as though they want a player, and a pick. Do the Rangers have that player? Would Balej and a first work and would we want to do that? Or Lundmark and a first? I'd definitely do either plus one or two of the seconds. That'll be a dream.

Personally I don't get rid of Tyutin though, as suggested in here.

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07-26-2005, 05:13 PM
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No way I'd trade Fedor. He's going to be really good

Trade our first, a second and perhaps package a couple good prospects plus the rights to Rachunek.

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I dont think it would make sense for us to give up what the Ducks will probably want for #2. Anything beyond a first and two seconds is too much.

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Rights for Rachunek, Dom Moore, #16 pick, 2nd rounder.

maybe nylander

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Jagr straight up for 2nd pick.

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Too bad we don't have Fedotenko. Him and our first should be enough.

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Maybe...Our 1st, two 2nd rounders and Tyutin. We pick up Johnson to replace Tyutin.....
That seems like too much.

How bout 1st, two 2nds and Poti? Or if poti is too much, eat some/all of Kasper's salary and trade him instead of Poti. (dispite the fact that he's not liked here, I still thing Poti has value)

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Jagr straight up for 2nd pick.
this is one of those paradoxical proposals where i don't think the ducks would do it, and i don't think the rangers are that desperate for top 6 prospect. there are very few guarantees in the draft, and the rangers could get more than the #2 overall in this draft for jagr, especially given his cut salary.

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this is one of those paradoxical proposals where i don't think the ducks would do it, and i don't think the rangers are that desperate for top 6 prospect. there are very few guarantees in the draft, and the rangers could get more than the #2 overall in this draft for jagr, especially given his cut salary.

Ok... Jagr says he might lean towards going back to Russia to play for Omsk. But likes New York. He's conflicted.

Anaheim says if they can get a proven player for the pick, they'll do it. Jagr with Fedorov = cha ching in Anaheim.

We are rebuilding and getting an impact player at 2 is a lot easier than at 16. If it makes sense...

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Ok... Jagr says he might lean towards going back to Russia to play for Omsk. But likes New York. He's conflicted.

Anaheim says if they can get a proven player for the pick, they'll do it. Jagr with Fedorov = cha ching in Anaheim.

We are rebuilding and getting an impact player at 2 is a lot easier than at 16. If it makes sense...
That alone pretty much assures that Jagr will not be traded at the draft. No team will give up a top pick/prospect for a guy who might never set foot on the ice with them.

And I agree with Sicilian. We can probably get at least, if not more, for Jagr in March when teams are desperate.

As for the Rangers trading down this year, I dont see it. At least not into the top 5. But if a guy they're really high on slips, I could see them giving up a 2nd to move up a few spots (10-14). Just like with Korpikoski.

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Burke has a good team and alot of young talent, he needs a goto guy who will put fannys in the seats and pucks in the net.
Jagr is built for a west coast team, and no other team has this type of player to offer. And his cap number is not that restrictive with Washington still picking up half.
Jagr, #16 and a second rounder.

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That alone pretty much assures that Jagr will not be traded at the draft. No team will give up a top pick/prospect for a guy who might never set foot on the ice with them.
Put him on a contender and he will show, he's not going anywhere with the rangers this season.

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07-26-2005, 06:45 PM
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Ok imnot great at these things so I here I go:

To NYR: #2 overall

To Anaheim: #16 overall, 2nd rounder the lowest one( what is it in the late 50's ), and Jagr or Holik with 1/2 salary paid or 1/3 paid

Or

To NYR: #2 overall
To Ana: #41 and #45 overall, 2006 3rd rounder, Jagr or Holik and 1/3 his contract paid by NYR

If that went throught I would not be dissapointed. Having the #2 and #16 overall and still a late 2nd rounder, plus all the other picks.

 
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Put him on a contender and he will show, he's not going anywhere with the rangers this season.
Its easy to assume that, but you never know with Jagr, or with anyone for that matter. Anaheim would probably need a verbal confirmation from Jagr that he would commit to them, but wouldnt that be tampering since he's technically under contract with the Rangers?

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Ok imnot great at these things so I here I go:

To NYR: #2 overall

To Anaheim: #16 overall, 2nd rounder the lowest one( what is it in the late 50's ), and Jagr or Holik with 1/2 salary paid or 1/3 paid

Or

To NYR: #2 overall
To Ana: #41 and #45 overall, 2006 3rd rounder, Jagr or Holik and 1/3 his contract paid by NYR

If that went throught I would not be dissapointed. Having the #2 and #16 overall and still a late 2nd rounder, plus all the other picks.
This is what I'd attempt to do...

To Anaheim: Jaromir Jagr, with the rest of his Salary picked up, #16 Overall, #45 Overall, and the right's to Karel Rachunek

To New York: #2 Overall, Anaheim's 2006 First Round Pick

Future first rounders are way overrated here, anyways, as well as most draft picks, so I can definitely see Burke accepting this one, since he would expect Jagr to help get the Ducks into the playoffs, and give Anaheim a late first rounder next year.

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