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11-27-2013, 09:31 PM
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Oilers Firesale?

I put this under proposal because I guess that's what it is? Anyway if the Oile's have another season where they aren't even close to the playoffs, should we begin to start thinking about other possiblities, like trading some of the core?

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11-27-2013, 09:36 PM
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We should, but management won't.

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11-27-2013, 09:40 PM
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It should happen but it probably won't happen.

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We should, but management won't.


You would think that management would change their minds if the Oilers are still missing the playoffs two years from now.

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11-27-2013, 09:43 PM
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We should, but management won't.
Not trying to troll but the Oils should look at trading. Keep RNH, keep Hall. Trade yak for something valuable. The draft is what you are looking at every year and I'm saying this lightly remember that. I wouldn't mind Petry on the ducks. You guys do have valuable pieces on your team to make things better.

But i will start with Petry? Asking price EDM fans?

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11-27-2013, 09:46 PM
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Maybe trading Eberle for the help on defense is what the Oilers need.


Andrew Ference-Jeff Petry
Anton Belov-Justin Schultz
Nick Schultz-Corey Potter





****ing atrocious.You're not going to have success with this core.

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11-27-2013, 09:49 PM
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Not trying to troll but the Oils should look at trading. Keep RNH, keep Hall. Trade yak for something valuable. The draft is what you are looking at every year and I'm saying this lightly remember that. I wouldn't mind Petry on the ducks. You guys do have valuable pieces on your team to make things better.

But i will start with Petry? Asking price EDM fans?

Why would Edmonton move Yakupov when he is likely to be better than Eberle in the future.


Trade Eberle for the help on the blue line and build around Yakupov/Hall/RNH

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the never-ending rebuild

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11-27-2013, 10:00 PM
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the never-ending rebuild
Drafting good players but one's team is still going nowhere because you have absolutely nothing to support them .

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The team should always be looking out for trades to improve the team. If you mean trading core players for picks and prospects, well we're even close to that point yet. The team is still very young.

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But i will start with Petry? Asking price EDM fans?
Petry is tough to trade since defence is the main thing we're looking for. In order to make a trade for Petry worthwhile the Oilers would need at least an equal roster defenceman which kind of makes the trade pointless.


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It won't be firesale. If a bunch of big things happen it will be retool.

If Mac-T grows a brain he'll trade the younger wingers away for more complete players whom are more difficult to play against.

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11-27-2013, 10:10 PM
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I put this under proposal because I guess that's what it is? Anyway if the Oile's have another season where they aren't even close to the playoffs, should we begin to start thinking about other possiblities, like trading some of the core?
No firesale just have to be patient and wait for Nurse Klefbom Marincin and presumably Ekblad at this years draft

Nurse-Ekblad
Klefbom-JSchultz
Marincin-Petry
Belov

That would be one of the scariest backends in the league

Also would make up for missing size up front
Nurse-6'5
Klefbom-6'3
Ekblad-6'4
Marincin-6'5
Petry-6'4
Belov-6'4
Jchultz-6'2

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11-27-2013, 10:28 PM
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No firesale just have to be patient and wait for Nurse Klefbom Marincin and presumably Ekblad at this years draft

Nurse-Ekblad
Klefbom-JSchultz
Marincin-Petry
Belov

That would be one of the scariest backends in the league

Also would make up for missing size up front
Nurse-6'5
Klefbom-6'3
Ekblad-6'4
Marincin-6'5
Petry-6'4
Belov-6'4
Jchultz-6'2
HAHAHAHA!

That's actually the worst NHL(meant to write defence! LOL!) in the history of the NHL!

Who's going to teach those guys HOW to be great in the NHL? Anyone ever wonder why Gagner, Hopkins and Eberle haven't seemed to improve a whole lot on the score sheet since coming to the NHL?

Dun dun dunn.....

You need experienced players to teach kids how to be great on and off of the ice.

With your train of thought we should obviously trade Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, Gagner and Hopkins for a many quality futures as possible.

We aren't going back into a rebuild.

If anything the answer is to trade some of our skilled wingers for tougher players to make it easier for our skilled guys to win.


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Eberle
Petry (1/2 salary retained) OR fair-to-decent forward prospect
2014 2nd round pick



Letang
Niskanen
Glass

At the deadline, assuming all players involved are healthy, of course.

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11-27-2013, 10:38 PM
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posting this for the gazillionth time



Eberle
Petry (1/2 salary retained) OR fair-to-decent forward prospect
2014 2nd round pick



Letang
Niskanen
Glass

At the deadline, assuming all players involved are healthy, of course.
If the rumours of the cap going up to 80 due to the new TV deal are true, retained salary is meaningless for now.

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Why would Edmonton move Yakupov when he is likely to be better than Eberle in the future.


Trade Eberle for the help on the blue line and build around Yakupov/Hall/RNH
Why is he on the chopping block? How many threads do we need of Yak rumors and discussion about him? If he is available trade him, fix your team. If yak is traded a lot of pieces are going your way in a tough rebuild for EDM. If it's Eberle going you still get decent pieces back as well. All I was simply stating is your team is relying on drafts way to much. Is this another year of it? I sure hope not. You guys are the center place of hockey. Had an icon of Gretzky if it wasn't for you my team probably wouldn't exist from an expansion. Tough times are ahead but if you're a hockey fan you gotta respect oilers hockey. Trades need to happen bro

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IMO there is no need for a firesale, we just need to replace the vets with soon to be expiring contracts with vets that are a better fit around the core that we have.

Then possibly trade one piece of the young offensive core not named Hall, for a more glaring need.

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Oilers firesale. Is that an oxymoron?

They need character players. If they are trading talent, fans will not be happy with the return.

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11-27-2013, 10:52 PM
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Gretzky brought California new to hockey. So as respect to him. I hope oilers refine there organization and get back on there feet. Whatever they have to do

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I put this under proposal because I guess that's what it is? Anyway if the Oile's have another season where they aren't even close to the playoffs, should we begin to start thinking about other possiblities, like trading some of the core?
We should think about getting rid of management. Keep the core, get good depth/supporting players. Trade futures if needed.

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11-27-2013, 10:55 PM
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No firesale just have to be patient and wait for Nurse Klefbom Marincin and presumably Ekblad at this years draft

Nurse-Ekblad
Klefbom-JSchultz
Marincin-Petry
Belov

That would be one of the scariest backends in the league

Also would make up for missing size up front
Nurse-6'5
Klefbom-6'3
Ekblad-6'4
Marincin-6'5
Petry-6'4
Belov-6'4
Jchultz-6'2
To the disagreement of Oiler fans here, I agree with you. Patience is still key and in all honesty I'd rather have Ekblad than trade the core just to get a defencman. And Ference is still there for 3 more years after this season so there will be a veteran presence.
Nurse-Ekblad
Kelfbom-J. Schultz
Ference-Petry/Belov/Marincin/N. Schultz (two can be traded for assets and bottom 6 help)

That looks good to me. Inexperienced yes, but that core with the offence core and hopefully some re-tooling and the Oilers will look good.


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Oilers need more players like Lucic, Simmonds, Ladd etc

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Management will remain passive, but if I were at the helm, the only member of the core I would keep is The Nuge. Targets would be:

Phaneuf in free agency. I think he probably re-signs with the Leafs, but with the D market what it is this year he'd be foolish not to listen on July 1st. I have to think we're number 2 on his list.

Weber or Subban. Not that I think either is available, but I wouldn't hesitate to package Hall and Eberle for either (preferably Weber).

Draft Ekblad. We suck, so this should not be a problem. Whatever extra picks/prospects we have to move to make it happen incase a team picking ahead of us wants him, we do it. Even 2015 1st.

Fix our goaltending in UFA. In a perfect world, sign Halak to a 4 yr deal in the 16-18 million range. When that's complete, trade for Mrazek (I'm thinking Klefbom might be enough for Detroit). Slovak mentoring a Czech should work.

Look for bigger, grittier options in the top 9 in UFA - guys like Setoguchi, Kulemin.

When the dust settles, hope that a revamped D and goaltending overcomes the drop off in skill/scoring up front (if we're to move Hall and Ebs).

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Oilers need more players like Lucic, Simmonds, Ladd etc
More? ****, I'd be happy if we had even one.

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