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11-27-2013, 11:24 AM
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I like Gardiner but would still rather land a scoring forward and give McIlrath/Johnson/Falk/Allen a chance in our top 6.

Del Zotto for Gardiner helps each player slightly, but is somewhat of a lateral move. (Is that the term? Always thought "horizontal" characterized it better)

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I dunno, I'd like Gardiner. He could really help with the transition game with his great first-pass and skating. But forwards are more of a pressing need.

I'm a well-documented anti-fan of Girardi, and would like to see him and Del Zotto moved, so we could get help in both areas.

It would be much easier to think of these proposals if we had any ****ing idea of what direction this team wants to go in.

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Gardiner has been the best puck possession defenseman on the Leafs this season. He has the second lowest offensive zone start percentage, but faces a low quality of competition. Del Zotto gets the second most sheltered minutes on the Rangers.

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I dunno, I'd like Gardiner. He could really help with the transition game with his great first-pass and skating. But forwards are more of a pressing need.

I'm a well-documented anti-fan of Girardi, and would like to see him and Del Zotto moved, so we could get help in both areas.

It would be much easier to think of these proposals if we had any ****ing idea of what direction this team wants to go in.
Agreed. If we swap DZ for Gardiner, I would like to flip Girardi for forward help.

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My dream is to flip Girardi for some assets and then flip those assets and some more assets for Byfuglien.

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I would really like Dustin Byfuglien. Brings everything this team needs. Imagine him and McI on the same defense corps? That's brutal.

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My dream is to flip Girardi for some assets and then flip those assets and some more assets for Byfuglien.
You dream too big.

Pun intended.

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Girardi has had a very poor year so far, but people have been extremely quiet about it.

I, for one, never want to see him on the power play, and yet there he always is.

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Since McD and Gardiner have history, acquiring him would presumably allow Staal and Girardi to pair up again.

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My dream is to flip Girardi for some assets and then flip those assets and some more assets for Byfuglien.
My dreams are nothing like that.

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Girardi has had a very poor year so far, but people have been extremely quiet about it.

I, for one, never want to see him on the power play, and yet there he always is.
AV has said he likes to have at least 2 RH shots on the powerplay.

If only there were a big, fat, black, RH PP defenseman out there....

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I saw Mark Stone was discussed. Kid has size, great hands around the net, and solid hockey sense, but his skating is terrible. Like, Brian Boyle before Underhill met with him kind of terrible. He also isn't particularly physical for a guy who's 6'3 and 210lbs.

I'd be really shocked if this team decided to trade Girardi. While he's been mediocre in this new system, I don't think there's anyone else in the system who can take over the minutes he plays.

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Since McD and Gardiner have history, acquiring him would presumably allow Staal and Girardi to pair up again.
And if AV continues his strategy of giving one pairing opportunistic zone starts offensively, McDonagh and Gardiner could be much more effective in that role than Staal and MDZ/Stralman have. I like Gardiner quite a bit, but I don't think he's ready for the meaningful shutdown minutes that McDonagh gets.

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Since McD and Gardiner have history, acquiring him would presumably allow Staal and Girardi to pair up again.
only for a short time as i hope slats trades G.

If DZ for Gardiner swap happens that meane G will be expendable to an extent. Trade him now get value as he will cost to much and bring up McI as all accounts point to him being nhl ready soon.

Love G but strength for weakness trades is how franchises win in the long run

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DZ for Gardiner.

Bring up McIlrath.

Trade Girardi at the deadline.

McDonagh-Gardiner
Staal-Stralman
Moore-McIlrath
Falk

Look at the calendar. Sunday is December 1. The Olympic break is 70 days away. One week after the NHL resumes is the deadline. March 5. Not much time. 1 week holiday roster freeze.

Re-sign Gardiner and Moore to 2 year bridge contracts.

Re-sign Staal in July. Don't let it linger like the Rangers always do. The Rangers can sign him on the first day of the 14-15 business year. They can talk to him before that date but he can't sign anything.

What does Stralman want? How many years? 4? Rangers offer 2. Meet at 3? How much money? $2.5M. $3M. $2.75M? $8.25M. Somewhere in that range.

McDonagh is signed long-term.

McIlrath will be on his ELC for another season(14-15). Then he signs a 2 year bridge contract.

Skjei is in his sophomore year. Turn pro or remain in Minnesota for his junior year?

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Also, I would think that the Leafs would have more interest in Girardi than Del Zotto.

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Wow. Klesla cleared waivers. Has he fallen that far or is cap space around the league hard to come by right now?

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I don't know if this was posted in the last thread (I went back 5 pages and didn't see it) but the apparent return offered from Ottawa for Del Zotto: Erik Condra, Eric Gryba and Colin Greening.

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Wow. Klesla cleared waivers. Has he fallen that far or is cap space around the league hard to come by right now?
I think it's both, tbh. $3M is a lot to absorb for most teams right now. Especially for a guy who's basically a 3rd pairing guy right now.

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I don't know if this was posted in the last thread (I went back 5 pages and didn't see it) but the apparent return offered from Ottawa for Del Zotto: Erik Condra, Eric Gryba and Colin Greening.
It was mentioned. It was actually that those players were made available, not that they were all offered up as a package.

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per Renaud Lavoie, Buffalo has put Corey Tropp on waivers


only 24 years old depth winger... Dale Weise type player..

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per Renaud Lavoie, Buffalo has put Corey Tropp on waivers


only 24 years old depth winger... Dale Weise type player..
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43 NHL Games, 3+6=9
109 AHL Games 21+45=66

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per Renaud Lavoie, Buffalo has put Corey Tropp on waivers


only 24 years old depth winger... Dale Weise type player..
Must be worth it when a powerhouse like Buffalo puts a guy on waivers.

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tHANKS FOR THE INFO!

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Must be worth it when a powerhouse like Buffalo puts a guy on waivers.
Claim Tropp, trade for Henrik Samuelsson, magically unload Pyatt & Pouliot, call it a day...

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