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06-18-2014, 04:48 PM
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Read the first skate thread for an overview on the difference between Vapor and Supreme.
Reading your OPs, this is awesome thanks for putting that together.

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Hey guys, when getting your skates sharpened is it usually a right now process, or is it something you need to drop off and pick up later. I got my skates in and was thinking of just getting them sharpened at the rink shop when I go to skate.
As mentioned earlier, It really depends on when and where you go.

Most of the time, whether it be rink or pro shop, they will do them right then and there. However, if they are backed up, or its super busy(like a rink during a mobbed public skate), you might have to drop off and go back later, or leave overnight.

There really is no set way about it. You can usually gauge things by how busy a place is at that given time.

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As mentioned earlier, It really depends on when and where you go.

Most of the time, whether it be rink or pro shop, they will do them right then and there. However, if they are backed up, or its super busy(like a rink during a mobbed public skate), you might have to drop off and go back later, or leave overnight.

There really is no set way about it. You can usually gauge things by how busy a place is at that given time.
Thanks.
Given my location, I don't think they ever really get backed up.

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Do all the new Bauer skates have removeable blades now?

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06-23-2014, 09:51 AM
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Vast majority now come with the LS Edge holder except for the one or two at the very bottom. All 3 families

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I just tried sharpening a size 8 vapor with the detachable blades using my X02 with a universal holder.

That damn thing would not fit into the holder, so I had to take off the blade and clamp it on individually.

That's also the first time I felt how hot the blades get after a sharpening too.

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Thanks.
Given my location, I don't think they ever really get backed up.
have you skated on those things yet? and if so how do you like them?

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I've skated in my new skates a bunch of times without gear to break them in and they were feeling like a perfect fit. They're mostly broken in now and I skated on them with full gear on and I noticed that my skates were loosening up a bit as I skated hard in gear.

This was with shinguards tucked in, tongues out. Could this be my issue? Should I lace up and put the shins over the tongue? Could this be why they're loosening up? I've never had this issue before nor have I ever worn shins over tongue but I'm willing to try if this could be the issue.

Anyone have any advice? My feet were in rough shape from the skate getting a bit loose (just a bit, not catastrophically so) throughout that skate. I tried re-lacing a few times but I kind of have a feeling that the tongue being out may be my problem with these particular skates.

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06-30-2014, 02:23 PM
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What kind of skates are they?

Try wax laces to keep the facing tighter so they don't loosen up as much over the course of the game.

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Graf Ultra 9035 MCI.

Thanks for the advice. Maybe I will try wax laces.

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What kind of skates are they?

Try wax laces to keep the facing tighter so they don't loosen up as much over the course of the game.

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So after a trip out to the eastern part of the state to the "Hockey Superstore"..a couple of interesting things happened. One, my son felt that the Supreme One.9 in a 6D was "too narrow" and was pinching his front foot. This was strange to me since we had tried on that size a couple weeks earlier at our LHS and he felt they were fine. Teenagers....

Anyway, we also learned that the skates (which now seem to be entering true clearance mode as retailers want to make way for the new Supremes) were in fact 30% off the sale price...meaning they came in at $335 before tax (including a bake and sharpen). At that point, we didnt really spend a lot of time comparing with the One.8s as I felt that the value of the One.9 at that price was great.

He ended up in a 6EE. I am very hopeful that these are a proper fit once he breaks them in as he hasnt used a wide skate before (he has been measured as having somewhat wide feet, but we have always been in D or regular width skates). I told him not to be surprised by a huge jump in stiffness. He has a couple of games this weekend and we will see how the adjustment goes.
Just an update, my son is blown away by the One.9s and the stiffness jump has not been an issue for him. I notice a little more explosiveness in his skating and am very glad we made the choice we did. I am hopeful these skates last a while, but I can tell that even after 7-8 game skates, there is barely any evidence of use at all, which is different from the skates he's had in the past. Thanks for the advice here.

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07-06-2014, 06:52 PM
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Now equipped with my immense moderator powers (which I intend to heavily abuse, but not before being somewhat useful haha), I updated the Skate thread with the new lines including the new Bauer Supreme/Nexus, CCM Tacks & Reebok Ribcor lines.

Check them out on Page 1!

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07-07-2014, 07:52 AM
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If you want to add details for the Grafs. The 709s have a fit similar to the RBZs. Wide and deep. Extremely comfortable right out of the box where baking is optional.

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thanks miscs, to be honest, I don't think I'll have any first hand experience with Graf because my store doesn't look to be bringing them back anytime soon. Same story with the other retailers in my area.

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07-07-2014, 04:31 PM
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They don't really have much popularity due to minimal advertising. I'm not 100% but i'm almost positive they don't discount for the pros either which is why not too many guys wear them.

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My store stopped carrying them because they went completely down the drain in terms of quality, durability and customer service. Their technology and quality are not competing with the big guys. They hired an corporate turn around specialist last year so we'll see what they do.

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My son is starting his second season of squirt hockey this fall. His current skates, Reebok 12k, still fit but was wondering if I should by the Reebok 14k, while they are sale and wait until the current become too small before we use them? I do not know how long the hockey equipment sales last.

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My son is starting his second season of squirt hockey this fall. His current skates, Reebok 12k, still fit but was wondering if I should by the Reebok 14k, while they are sale and wait until the current become too small before we use them? I do not know how long the hockey equipment sales last.
How much are they on sale for (price and savings?)?

How close is he to outgrowing the 12Ks?

The 14Ks will likely stay on sale because they are discontinued product.

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Thanks for the reponse.

I went onto hockeymonkey (will have to ship) and found the following:

Regular Price Clearance Price extra 20% Price
Reebok 14K $279.99 149.99 119.99
Reebok 18K $399.99 229.99 183.99
Reebok 20K $449.99 249.99 199.99

The 14K are $149.99 at my local pro shop and the 12K's are $80 at my local purehockey.

My son has about an 1/8 inch left to grow in his skate by looking at his insole.
He is in his second year of hockey but is a pretty good skater compared to his peers (squirts). He will probably be on the ice 4 days a week starting in August, currently he skates 3 days a week.

Thanks for your help.

The only reason I am looking at Reebok is because he never has complained about his foot hurting in his skate.

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07-10-2014, 11:10 AM
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I would keep skating in his current skates for as long as possible. the 12K skates for $80 sounds like a great deal, you're not getting enough value for $40 by jumping to a 14K, the 12K level is just fine. If anything you may want to snatch up a pair in a size larger than what he currently has. I would definitely relay your information and concerns to an associate at PH he should be able to pinpoint sizing for you.

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6 months ago I bought a used pair of 7k REEBOKS. Never skated before. Fit was a half size too big but still very comfy. Skates started to break down after a few months and I wanted a better pair.

Last month I bought a pair of 16K REEBOKS. $210 delivered.

WOW! So nice. Did not bake.

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My store stopped carrying them because they went completely down the drain in terms of quality, durability and customer service. Their technology and quality are not competing with the big guys. They hired an corporate turn around specialist last year so we'll see what they do.
I would say that is not completely accurate. I'd put their new 9035 up against anything out right now and it has plenty of quality and technology in it and I'd rate it above most of the top of the line skates.

However, you're right about their customer service. It has completely gone to hell and we used to sell a lot of Graf stuff, but now I'm clearing a lot of it out so I dont have to deal with them any longer.

But the product is still very good on their higher end skates.

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I would say that is not completely accurate. I'd put their new 9035 up against anything out right now and it has plenty of quality and technology in it and I'd rate it above most of the top of the line skates.

However, you're right about their customer service. It has completely gone to hell and we used to sell a lot of Graf stuff, but now I'm clearing a lot of it out so I dont have to deal with them any longer.

But the product is still very good on their higher end skates.
Maybe so. I haven't had a lot of experience with them. It will still take a tremendous effort to get anywhere close to where they used to be, if that's possible in my opinion.

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Hey everyone,

I started skating about 4 months ago, and bought Bauer Supreme One.6s. I've probably logged about 150 hours on them since then.

Recently I've found that they really aren't supporting my ankle as much. The other day I suddenly went "full bender" to my inside edges out of the blue; really surprised me.

I've always had ankle support issues when getting to my outside edge as well.

On top of all that, I also think they are a size too big. When I got fitted for them, I really had no idea what I was looking for, regardless of how much I had tried to inform myself beforehand. I'm a 6.5D right now, but my toes never touch the toecap. When I loosen the skate and kick my foot forward until my toes do touch the toecap, I can easily fit a pencil behind my heel.

I find more support in the skate when I really crank the laces down, but then lacebite shows its ugly face.

I was thinking about moving up to the Supreme One.7s or One.8s even. I also want to try some CCMs as well. Either way, I'll be spending MUCH more time trying on different skates when I go to the LHS.

Any thoughts on my predicament?

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Seems like a logical next step. You should see a good amount of benefit going to a One. 8. Might as well try on a One. 9 if they have it. Now you know to go size 6. The CCM Tacks come out next Friday. Read page 1 for an overview.

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