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12-03-2013, 05:46 PM
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Anaheim got a very good package for Ryan. Silfverberg was as highly regarded in Ottawa as Zibanejad is/was(?).
Bryan Murray made that trade with his brother. Bryan Murray's prospect guy is the son of Anaheim's GM.

Don't think Slats gets a family discount.

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12-03-2013, 05:50 PM
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Bryan Murray made that trade with his brother. Bryan Murray's prospect guy is the son of Anaheim's GM.

Don't think Slats gets a family discount.
he has that so called family in Edmonton, maybe he can snag Nurse i know it wont happen but it would be nice if it did

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12-03-2013, 05:51 PM
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Bryan Murray made that trade with his brother. Bryan Murray's prospect guy is the son of Anaheim's GM.

Don't think Slats gets a family discount.
This. I got the impression Anaheim made one phone call. The Ryan trade was done and announced right after Alfredsson went to Detroit and Ottawa needed good PR. I don't think any other teams made an offer even.

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12-03-2013, 06:11 PM
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speculation

File this under pure speculation and then qualify it with this: I' don't know a damn thing.

Having said that, I have s sneaking suspicion that Mr. Slats might be getting desperate. Desperate enought to possibly trade Henrik for ( a 2nd line C plus a big time scoring winger?)

Are they floating a trial balloon with Talbot? Is he considering going with Cam in order to get some big time proven forwards that can score so the Rangers can make a run NOW?

Sather is getting up there in years, has been around a looooong time in NY and has not won it all. Is it possible that he senses that his days as a GM are waning and he has to take his shot NOW?

He fired our previous coach after what was really a respectable season. He cannot fire AV now or he'll look like an idiot, and we are currently what our record says we are.

There is a lot at stake.

Is this feasible?

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12-03-2013, 06:14 PM
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Tim Murray is the nephew of Bryan Murray. Tim is the Senators AGM. He worked for his uncle in Florida and then Anaheim. The Rangers hired Tim when Brian Burke became Ducks GM. Bryan was the Sens head coach and then became GM. He hired his nephew as his AGM.

Ottawa had talked with Anaheim about Ryan. The holdup was the pick. Anaheim wanted a first rounder. Ottawa was offering a second rounder. Alfredsson left for the Wings which surprised Bryan Murray. He agreed to give up the #1 after Alfredsson left.

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12-03-2013, 06:17 PM
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File this under pure speculation and then qualify it with this: I' don't know a damn thing.

Having said that, I have s sneaking suspicion that Mr. Slats might be getting desperate. Desperate enought to possibly trade Henrik for ( a 2nd line C plus a big time scoring winger?)

Are they floating a trial balloon with Talbot? Is he considering going with Cam in order to get some big time proven forwards that can score so the Rangers can make a run NOW?

Sather is getting up there in years, has been around a looooong time in NY and has not won it all. Is it possible that he senses that his days as a GM are waning and he has to take his shot NOW?

He fired our previous coach after what was really a respectable season. He cannot fire AV now or he'll look like an idiot, and we are currently what our record says we are.

There is a lot at stake.

Is this feasible?
There's absolutely nothing at stake for Sather. He's had his job for, what, 13-14 years now? And has one ECF appearance to show for it. Dolan literally said Sather is GM until he wants to leave.

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12-03-2013, 06:24 PM
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There's absolutely nothing at stake for Sather. He's had his job for, what, 13-14 years now? And has one ECF appearance to show for it. Dolan literally said Sather is GM until he wants to leave.
I don't think he's worried about losing his job. I think he thought he would have won one by now, and he sees the window closing.

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12-03-2013, 06:26 PM
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Tim Murray was a Rangers amateur scout/Assistant director of player personnel for two seasons. 2005-06 and 06-07. He was Clark's assistant. Jeff Gorton was promoted to replace Murray after he left for Ottawa. Gorton joined the Rangers as a scout in 2007 after getting fired by the Bruins.

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12-03-2013, 06:39 PM
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There's absolutely nothing at stake for Sather. He's had his job for, what, 13-14 years now? And has one ECF appearance to show for it. Dolan literally said Sather is GM until he wants to leave.
He never will. He will die GM of the Rangers.

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He never will. He will die GM of the Rangers.
And Dolan will pull a "weekend at bernie's". Miraculously, the team will then improve.

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12-03-2013, 06:51 PM
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20 scouts/mgmt repping 15 teams at SJ/TOR game: WAS, CGY, STL, BUF (2), BOS, EDM, MTL (3), NYR (2), VAN (2), PHI, WPG, PIT, FLA, NAS, OTT
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The Rangers can't get their forward for DZ. Can they get the forward for Staal?

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12-03-2013, 06:57 PM
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The Rangers can't get their forward for DZ. Can they get the forward for Staal?
Might be the trade chip with the most value that the Rangers would even entertain trading.

That said, MDZ seems on hiss way out regardless. Things get shaky on the backend.

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12-03-2013, 06:57 PM
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The Rangers can't get their forward for DZ. Can they get the forward for Staal?
I don't understand why they can't get a forward for MDZ. Brent Burns was traded for Devin Setoguchi, Charlie Coyle and a 1st round pick in 2011. Burns was a season away from Group III. 26 years old.

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12-03-2013, 07:02 PM
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That's true. He was also coming off seasons of 36, 33, 46 and 29 goals with a very reasonable cap hit for years to come.



Please offer some names of players like that who will be available. Reasonably priced players who have averaged 34 goals the four seasons before he was dealt and are under 28.

Lets not forget as a center whos 6'3" as well

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The Rangers can't get their forward for DZ. Can they get the forward for Staal?
I'd rather reserve trading Staal for Ryan Murphy and a Carolina 1st.

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I don't understand why they can't get a forward for MDZ. Brent Burns was traded for Devin Setoguchi, Charlie Coyle and a 1st round pick in 2011. Burns was a season away from Group III. 26 years old.


To reiterate, similar move have been made. Gologoski to Dallas. Neal to Pittsburgh. Johnson to Colorado. Stewart to St. Louis. Defense for forward. Del Zotto has value. They need the right fit.

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I don't understand why they can't get a forward for MDZ. Brent Burns was traded for Devin Setoguchi, Charlie Coyle and a 1st round pick in 2011. Burns was a season away from Group III. 26 years old.
Brent Burns wasn't a forward when he was dealt. Or was that the point? Haha

I've read that there's talk of moving Gardiner up front. Maybe we should get him.

Edit: I just realized this post makes no sense. Just ignore it.

Burns was a 1st pair D when he was traded.


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I don't understand why they can't get a forward for MDZ. Brent Burns was traded for Devin Setoguchi, Charlie Coyle and a 1st round pick in 2011. Burns was a season away from Group III. 26 years old.
That is an excellent comparable.

Looking at Carolina's roster that's Jeff Skinner, top prospect, and a 1st. I'd be very wary of Skinner, but if that prospect is Ryan Murphy? Well that is fair value considering the head injuries being a concern for Marc and Jeff.

I just don't know if Skinner can return to rookie form, is he a self motivated player?

Can Ryan Murphy defend at the NHL level?

Is Elias Lindholm up for discussion?

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12-03-2013, 07:49 PM
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That is an excellent comparable.

Looking at Carolina's roster that's Jeff Skinner, top prospect, and a 1st. I'd be very wary of Skinner, but if that prospect is Ryan Murphy? Well that is fair value considering the head injuries being a concern for Marc and Jeff.

I just don't know if Skinner can return to rookie form, is he a self motivated player?

Can Ryan Murphy defend at the NHL level?

Is Elias Lindholm up for discussion?
I'd like Lindholm, Murphy, McGinn. Big fan of McGinn. Solid prospect.

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Skinner, Murphy, and a high first for Staal? Are you guys high? This is Marc Staal, not Duncan Keith.

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Skinner, Murphy, and a high first for Staal? Are you guys high? This is Marc Staal, not Duncan Keith.
Was coming to post something along these lines. Not that NYR needs to take garbage from Carolina either, but it will be impossible to get anything close to fair value from that team for Staal.

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Was coming to post something along these lines. Not that NYR needs to take garbage from Carolina either, but it will be impossible to get anything close to fair value from that team for Staal.
Pittsburgh got tons of value for J. Staal. 9th overall, Sutter, and Dumoulin, a solid D prospect.

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Pittsburgh got tons of value for J. Staal. 9th overall, Sutter, and Dumoulin, a solid D prospect.
Skinner > Sutter
Murphy >>>> Dumoulin
1st is a ?

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Pittsburgh got tons of value for J. Staal. 9th overall, Sutter, and Dumoulin, a solid D prospect.
Yeah, but you have to remember that J Staal is a 1st line C just stuck behind Sid and Malkin....


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I don't think he's worried about losing his job. I think he thought he would have won one by now, and he sees the window closing.
Again, he's had his job for 13-14 years now in NY. He won 4 Cups in Edmonton. Money is the name of the game and he's winning. Not sure where you think this pressure is suddenly coming from. He'll pull the trigger on a trade when he's good and ready.

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