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12-03-2013, 08:07 PM
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Have you ever liked anything the organization has ever done? Just wondering.
Yup. Look harder.

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Ahummm........2 Stanley Cups...so many issues to deal with you just keep getting better and better
Could have won in 2011 if they'd not overpaid Versteeg, Ladd etc by submitting their QO's late putting them in their terrible cap situation to begin with.

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12-03-2013, 08:11 PM
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If he has a decent work ethic and is willing to train to become a better player, what is the harm? As many said, this is the type of player the talent pool was lacking for the most part.

If he trains like Bournival, he might have unsuspected upside like Bourni has.

The players with great work ethic are not static snapshots, they're more like dynamic animations, which hopefully improve rather than stagnate or worsen over time. Those without the requisite work ethic hit their ceiling very young.

Edit: one or two of these guys, McCarron, Crisp, Aliu, and so on, is bound to make it and transform the Canadiens into a team that others hate to play against.

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12-03-2013, 08:12 PM
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So.. that's prolly an AHL signing?

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12-03-2013, 08:14 PM
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If he has a decent work ethic and is willing to train to become a better player, what is the harm? As many said, this is the type of player the talent pool was lacking for the most part.

If he trains like Bournival, he might have unsuspected upside like Bourni has.

The players with great work ethic are not static snapshots, they're more like dynamic animations, which hopefully improve rather than stagnate or worsen over time. Those without the requisite work ethic hit their ceiling very young.
Apparently he's in great shape and sitting at 210 pounds, but from what I've heard he has an awkward skating stride and not the skill of a bournival. I've been told he could be a 3rd/4th line player if he keeps developping.

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If he has a decent work ethic and is willing to train to become a better player, what is the harm? As many said, this is the type of player the talent pool was lacking for the most part.

If he trains like Bournival, he might have unsuspected upside like Bourni has.

The players with great work ethic are not static snapshots, they're more like dynamic animations, which hopefully improve rather than stagnate or worsen over time. Those without the requisite work ethic hit their ceiling very young.

Edit: one or two of these guys, McCarron, Crisp, Aliu, and so on, is bound to make it and transform the Canadiens into a team that others hate to play against.
Aliu has been let go.

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12-03-2013, 08:18 PM
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They obviously saw something in him. Let's see how he develops

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12-03-2013, 08:21 PM
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Could have won in 2011 if they'd not overpaid Versteeg, Ladd etc by submitting their QO's late putting them in their terrible cap situation to begin with.
Sure man, you're right, Bergevin and Dudley (thee Rick Dudley) are wrong, my cousin knows Geoff Molson personally, I'll get him to hand him your curriculum vitae.

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12-03-2013, 08:26 PM
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Sure man, you're right, Bergevin and Dudley (thee Rick Dudley) are wrong, my cousin knows Geoff Molson personally, I'll get him to hand him your curriculum vitae.
Yeah I clearly said they were wrong and make mistakes all the time and should listen to me. You must major in women's studies with your sound strawman argument abilities.

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12-03-2013, 08:39 PM
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So.. that's prolly an AHL signing?
Not until next year. He stays in the Q this year.

As far away from the NHL it is, I wonder if there will be anything about this on 24CH

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Like the Tyler Gaudet (Phoenix) signing before him, this Jack Nevins signing seems to be based entirely on not even half a season. I think his developmental curve is what makes him intriguing. He went from being one of the worst players in the OHL, to being waived, to being a below average player in the QMJHL, to a point-per-game captain.

If he keeps developing at the pace that he has been recently (which might not be realistic), it's not out of the realm of possibilities to see him in the NHL at some point. But at the same token, it's a lot of stock placed on a small sample size and potential (when there probably isn't all that much to begin with).

Either way, it should be interesting to see how this plays out. It's rare to see an overage player sign a contract after just a partial season (compared to the Brendan Shinnimins of the world).

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Jack Nevins ‏@Nevie23 5h
Very special day for me, Thrilled to have Signed my first NHL contract with the Montreal Canadiens. Thanks for all the well wishes !!

https://twitter.com/Nevie23

His twitter account.


The @IslandersHKY captain @Nevie23 was all smiles today at practice after signing with @CanadiensMTL ...


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12-03-2013, 08:53 PM
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Yeah I clearly said they were wrong and make mistakes all the time and should listen to me. You must major in women's studies with your sound strawman argument abilities.
Uh, strawman argument is actually 2 words...straw man...that's the lesson for the day

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12-03-2013, 09:16 PM
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This will end up being a wasted contract.

Limited skills and not a great fighter.
Gee, thanks for that amazing scouting report, but you know what; I'll probably stick with the REAL scouts who spent countless hours watching this guy, having conversations with him, his coaches, hours of game tape.

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12-04-2013, 06:20 AM
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If he has a decent work ethic and is willing to train to become a better player, what is the harm? As many said, this is the type of player the talent pool was lacking for the most part.

If he trains like Bournival, he might have unsuspected upside like Bourni has.

The players with great work ethic are not static snapshots, they're more like dynamic animations, which hopefully improve rather than stagnate or worsen over time. Those without the requisite work ethic hit their ceiling very young.

Edit: one or two of these guys, McCarron, Crisp, Aliu, and so on, is bound to make it and transform the Canadiens into a team that others hate to play against.
I think they released Aliu, but I get your point, one of them is bound to pan out

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12-04-2013, 07:22 AM
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Problem is, this guy sucks.
Have you ever seen the kid play?

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Problem is, this guy sucks.
So enlighten us on your scouting report, why does he suck?

He's looking good this year. Has size, toughness, kills penalities and putting up a point per game. It's unlikely he'll ever play top 6 in the NHL but if he develops into a Moen Prust Nystrom or Hendricks he will be a great signing. A guy the Habs won't have to trade for, use a draft pick on or sign as a UFA.

Your prospect base has to have players of all types. Skilled top 6 guys, tough, grinding, defensive specialist/PK bottom 6 guys. If you develop your own then you don't need to spend taht extra 500-750k/year on a Moen/Prust/Nystrom/Hendricks for example. You can use that cap space elswhere.

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They obviously saw something in him. Let's see how he develops
There were four or five teams interested in him. Clearly, professionals scouts are seeing potential in this kid.

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There were four or five teams interested in him. Clearly, professionals scouts are seeing potential in this kid.
So the other 25 teams didn't think he was contract worthy?

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12-04-2013, 08:38 AM
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Have you ever seen the kid play?
Many times. Probably 20 times.

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So enlighten us on your scouting report, why does he suck?

He's looking good this year. Has size, toughness, kills penalities and putting up a point per game. It's unlikely he'll ever play top 6 in the NHL but if he develops into a Moen Prust Nystrom or Hendricks he will be a great signing. A guy the Habs won't have to trade for, use a draft pick on or sign as a UFA.

Your prospect base has to have players of all types. Skilled top 6 guys, tough, grinding, defensive specialist/PK bottom 6 guys. If you develop your own then you don't need to spend taht extra 500-750k/year on a Moen/Prust/Nystrom/Hendricks for example. You can use that cap space elswhere.
Extremely limited offensive ability and not a good skater. Waived through OHL for a reason. As an overager having a good (not great) season on a below average team where he sees plenty of ice time.

Plus he will be outmatched physically at the next level.

Listen, this is my opinion and I could be wrong.

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So enlighten us on your scouting report, why does he suck?

He's looking good this year. Has size, toughness, kills penalities and putting up a point per game. It's unlikely he'll ever play top 6 in the NHL but if he develops into a Moen Prust Nystrom or Hendricks he will be a great signing. A guy the Habs won't have to trade for, use a draft pick on or sign as a UFA.

Your prospect base has to have players of all types. Skilled top 6 guys, tough, grinding, defensive specialist/PK bottom 6 guys. If you develop your own then you don't need to spend taht extra 500-750k/year on a Moen/Prust/Nystrom/Hendricks for example. You can use that cap space elswhere.
Given the type of skills he has, I think Brad Staubiz would be a better comparison. If he turns out to be a Brad Staubiz and play some NHL games, then it's a winner, as ridiculous as it sounds.

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His skating is below par. He's going to have work through the ECHL before he touches the AHL. Don't see any more from him than I did Conboy.

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His skating is below par. He's going to have work through the ECHL before he touches the AHL. Don't see any more from him than I did Conboy.
LOL, Conboy, another overrated Habs prospect.

But I guess I should expect that from a fan board.

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LOL, Conboy, another overrated Habs prospect.

But I guess I should expect that from a fan board.
how did he overrate Conboy? dude, you need help with the hate.

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