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12-03-2013, 10:53 PM
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Leafs - Jets

With the emergence of Trouba, I was wondering if Bogosian would be available? I know many would rather deal Buf, but still. I was under the impression that the jets need a lhd? Base of Gardiner + for Bogo?

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12-03-2013, 10:58 PM
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Don't think that will work, the LHD the Jets need is more of a shut down guy than another puck mover. Both Enstrom, and soon Morrissey, are lefties that are PMD.

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Another Gardiner thread? jeez

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Don't think that will work, the LHD the Jets need is more of a shut down guy than another puck mover. Both Enstrom, and soon Morrissey, are lefties that are PMD.
Agreed Wpg doesn't need Gardiner.

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We have enough soft D, no thanks

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12-03-2013, 11:37 PM
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bogo would be nice but don't think jets need another guy like gards

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Doesn't make sense for the jets.

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12-04-2013, 12:11 AM
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Let's sweeten the OP's offer, just for fun ...

Rielly+ for Bogo+?

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12-04-2013, 03:58 AM
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Let's sweeten the OP's offer, just for fun ...

Rielly+ for Bogo+?
Doesn't really change the reply at all. The Jets already have a plethora of offensive defenseman and don't really need anymore.

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12-04-2013, 05:52 AM
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I'd think Bogosian would be a good pick up for us, that or Girardi/Coburn and Gleason, but I don't know what you'd want for him.

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We have enough soft D, no thanks
Haha, you said it!


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Bogosian is having a pretty bad year. Jets would be foolish to sell low.

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Not interested in Gardiner at all, like others have said the Jets need a hard-nosed shutdown defenseman.

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12-04-2013, 07:45 AM
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Not interested in Gardiner at all, like others have said the Jets need a hard-nosed shutdown defenseman.
Nik Grossmann fits that bill and Philly needs an offensive d-man, so Grossmann in a package for ???

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12-04-2013, 08:17 AM
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Nik Grossmann fits that bill and Philly needs an offensive d-man, so Grossmann in a package for ???
Probably one of our depth right-handed offensive d-men.

Something around Postma or Redmond, but one is injured and the other is coming off an injury.

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Probably one of our depth right-handed offensive d-men.

Something around Postma or Redmond, but one is injured and the other is coming off an injury.
I'd sweeten the deal for Bogo.

Grossman (2nd pairing, hard nosed DDM), Simmonds (young middle 6 PWF who is still growing) and a 2015 1st (another chance at the 1st OA next year) for Bogo.

It's probably fair value for Bogo but like most proposals, it's quantity for quality and probably not a trade I'd make if I were them.

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For Bogo? We'd want Coburn +.

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12-04-2013, 01:21 PM
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Wait I know...

WHAT ABOUT TROUBA FOR RIELLY?!?


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12-04-2013, 01:30 PM
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Bogo should be spending many years in Wpg.. Himself and his agent have both said he plans to play out his career in Wpg and he actually loves it here. Chevy and Chipman are huge fans of Bogo, too.

With that said, there's nothing wrong with hypothetical negotiations.

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12-04-2013, 01:33 PM
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Rielly holds the most value after Kessel and JVR then Kadri. Rielly is untouchable.

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Rielly holds the most value after Kessel and JVR then Kadri. Rielly is untouchable.
In jest my friend, worry not.

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12-04-2013, 04:38 PM
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With the emergence of Trouba, I was wondering if Bogosian would be available? I know many would rather deal Buf, but still. I was under the impression that the jets need a lhd? Base of Gardiner + for Bogo?
Lupul and Tyler Biggs for Bogosian

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12-04-2013, 06:25 PM
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JVR is the only person i would even think about trying for. terrible trading partners

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12-04-2013, 07:00 PM
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JVR is the only person i would even think about trying for. terrible trading partners
JVR is worth more than Bogosian right now. We got him when he was on a full blown injury and for a guy they really needed, and I mean REALLY needed. While we could use Bogosian quite a bit, I don't think we'd do anything more rash than trade Lupul maybe or one of our young defensemen like Gardiner or Franson (who you don't need). Otherwise, I don't see a deal happening unless we trade Gunnarsson or something?

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Otherwise, I don't see a deal happening unless we trade Gunnarsson or something?
I think Gunnarsson would be a good piece. Not sure how much TML would have to add due to talent and age difference. It would have to blow us away, as Bogo isn't really available and absolutely loves it here. After signing his contract his agent said Bogo wants to play his entire career here.

TBH we're looking for a big mean physical shutdown guy to play with Bogosian. We'd much rather trade Buff. There's more than a few teams that want him.

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I think Gunnarsson would be a good piece. Not sure how much TML would have to add due to talent and age difference. It would have to blow us away, as Bogo isn't really available and absolutely loves it here. After signing his contract his agent said Bogo wants to play his entire career here.

TBH we're looking for a big mean physical shutdown guy to play with Bogosian. We'd much rather trade Buff. There's more than a few teams that want him.
Oh, well I don't know what else you'd need. I'd say that with the possibility of getting a top 6 winger, and if we ABSOLUTELY LOVE Bogosian, we'd be willing to offer Lupul, but beyond that, I don't see anything you'd want that'd we give up. We're thinking about moving Gardiner for Kulikov, Liles for Gleason, Franson away, etc., so there's more than enough more plausible deals that could occur than this one.

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