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04-10-2014, 03:39 PM
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edmonton-nashville or Dallas

What do you guys think of a trade like.

Yak
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04-10-2014, 03:41 PM
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What do you guys think of a trade like.

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Who's Goligoski? The only Goligoski I know is on Dallas.

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For the first trade, I have sincere doubts that Nashville has any interest in acquiring a Russian forward such as Yakupov after Radulov, especially someone for someone such as Josi.


For the second trade, what? Did I read that right?

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Why is Goligoski's trade value so much higher than Josi's....

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Why is Goligoski's trade value so much higher than Josi's....
That's what I was thinking I don't think Goligoski would cost yak.
Gagner + 2015 2nd

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Goligoski doesn't get the 1st this year or next year and he doesn't get Yakupov either.

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Why is Goligoski's trade value so much higher than Josi's....
I personally consider him one of the best 2nd or 3rd dmans in the league.

If a high 1st a bit heavy for a team with 0 quality dman other them nurse and krefbom(spelling)

Yak for goligoski is a basis of the trade could change 1st into 2nd

I just feel Edmonton ownership want results and are tired of this "rebuild." That's why I feel Edmonton ships yak and 1st or 2nd for a very decent dman like goligoski.

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Oilers make the first trade but I doubt the preds do based on him being Russian

Oilers easily decline trade #2.

Goligoski doesn't have that much if any more value than Josi imo

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04-10-2014, 03:50 PM
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Fair enough on goligoski but I feel a yak for goligoski trade is a great trade for both sides

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I personally consider him one of the best 2nd or 3rd dmans in the league.

If a high 1st a bit heavy for a team with 0 quality dman other them nurse and krefbom(spelling)

Yak for goligoski is a basis of the trade could change 1st into 2nd

I just feel Edmonton ownership want results and are tired of this "rebuild." That's why I feel Edmonton ships yak and 1st or 2nd for a very decent dman like goligoski.
Yak and a 1st is the price we would pay for much better defensemen than Goligoski. You must think that Yak has no value, let me ask you this. Would Dallas trade Nichushkin and their 1st for Jeff Petry? Because that is essentially what you are asking us to do here. At minimum, the 1st rounder is on the wrong side of the equation. Not close.

The Josi deal is much closer.

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I personally consider him one of the best 2nd or 3rd dmans in the league.

If a high 1st a bit heavy for a team with 0 quality dman other them nurse and krefbom(spelling)

Yak for goligoski is a basis of the trade could change 1st into 2nd

I just feel Edmonton ownership want results and are tired of this "rebuild." That's why I feel Edmonton ships yak and 1st or 2nd for a very decent dman like goligoski.
It's way too much for Goligoski. Our 1st alone is fair value but Stars wouldn't do it since they aren't rebuilding.

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04-10-2014, 03:53 PM
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Nashville doesn't do this for two reasons. Yakupov's nationality and Josi's contract. It's pretty fair though.

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04-10-2014, 04:11 PM
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Fair enough on goligoski but I feel a yak for goligoski trade is a great trade for both sides
Whaaaaaaaaat

That is the definition of selling low

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Nashville doesn't do this for two reasons. Yakupov's nationality and Josi's contract. It's pretty fair though.
That and Josi has more goals and points. Not really the "top 3" palyer we need.
No way we trade our #2D who loves NSH for Yak.

Easy pass.

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I personally consider him one of the best 2nd or 3rd dmans in the league.

If a high 1st a bit heavy for a team with 0 quality dman other them nurse and krefbom(spelling)

Yak for goligoski is a basis of the trade could change 1st into 2nd

I just feel Edmonton ownership want results and are tired of this "rebuild." That's why I feel Edmonton ships yak and 1st or 2nd for a very decent dman like goligoski.
I am so confused. Yak and a 1st or second to get a "decent dman", but then you offer less for Josi?

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Yak and a 1st is the price we would pay for much better defensemen than Goligoski. You must think that Yak has no value, let me ask you this. Would Dallas trade Nichushkin and their 1st for Jeff Petry? Because that is essentially what you are asking us to do here. At minimum, the 1st rounder is on the wrong side of the equation. Not close.

The Josi deal is much closer.
Um, not remotely similar. Gogo is a far superior dman and Nuke's game is just flat out better in every aspect right now. They may end up with similar value at some point. But right now Nuke is a fixture on the top line of a decent team, and is bigger, as fast, has as good or better offensive production, and is in another stratosphere defensively.

That Dallas offer is insane for Edmonton, but yours makes it look like a steal.

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Um, not remotely similar. Gogo is a far superior dman and Nuke's game is just flat out better in every aspect right now. They may end up with similar value at some point. But right now Nuke is a fixture on the top line of a decent team, and is bigger, as fast, has as good or better offensive production, and is in another stratosphere defensively.

That Dallas offer is insane for Edmonton, but yours makes it look like a steal.
Petry is waaaaay better than Goligoski...

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Whaaaaaaaaat

That is the definition of selling low
better to sell low than see the player bust or bolt to russia.

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What do you guys think of a trade like.

Yak
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Josi

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Yak
1st
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Goligoski
following your logical properties of trades....Josi <<<< Goligowski....ROFL

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Goligoski is a solid DMan, but jeez..... Lol.

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Oh yah Goligoski for your 1st......i'll personally purchase Goligoski's ticket to Edmonton.

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better to sell low than see the player bust or bolt to russia.
No

Better to retain the asset and get competent coaching that can maximize that asset

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What do you guys think of a trade like.

Yak
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Josi

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Yak
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Goligoski
Do you really think Goligoski has a higher value than Josi. I think most hockey fans would see the value being higher the other way.

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Get Nill on the phone RIGHT NOW!

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Oilers make the first trade but I doubt the preds do based on him being Russian

Oilers easily decline trade #2.

Goligoski doesn't have that much if any more value than Josi imo
Preds don't make the first trade out of team need and value of the player being traded. Yak's being Russian isn't the main problem, nor is it necessarily a problem at all. The main problem is right now Josi has more value than Yak in general, and infinitely more value to the Preds. A top pairing LHD on a long term, cheap contract is very valuable to Nashville, especially considering behind him on the left side are Ekholm and MDZ. Neither of those players is ready to stop into a full-time top pairing role. Yak may eventually be a great winger, or he may not, but right now his value is pretty low for a guy who was drafted first overall just a couple of summers ago. Potential on the wing <<<< known talent on the top pair.

The so-called "Russian factor" doesn't even need to be brought up in discussion of that first proposal.

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