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Jones vs Ekblad

View Poll Results: Who do you take to start a franchise?
Jones 34 49.28%
Ekblad 35 50.72%
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08-04-2012, 08:31 PM
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Jones vs Ekblad

Seth Jones
Defense
Born Oct 3 1994 -- Plano, TX
Height 6.03 -- Weight 183
NHL Draft Eligible: 2013
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Will look to challenge phenom Nathan MacKinnon for the #1 selection in the upcoming entry draft.

Aaron Ekblad
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Born Feb 7 1996 -- Belle River, ONT
Height 6.03 -- Weight 207 -- Shoots R
NHL Draft Eligible: 2014
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Only the third player to have ever been given "exceptional player" status by the OHL, (and the only Dman,) the other 2 players being John Tavares and Connor McDavid.

(Source: HockeyDB.com)


Both potential franchise defensemen. Can anyone compare these guys?

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08-04-2012, 08:34 PM
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Ekblad was more advanced than Jones was at 15 but all that can be said now is both are on track to be some of the best defensemen prospects in recent memory. Both are likely the best since Pronger.

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I took Ekblad because it's impossible for me to say someone is a better prospect than Ekblad. Kid stepped in and played defense in the OHL at 15 and didn't look out of place at all. Just ridiculous. He's got all the physical tools and is phenomenally good for his age.

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Ekblad was more advanced than Jones was at 15 but all that can be said now is both are on track to be some of the best defensemen prospects in recent memory. Both are likely the best since Pronger.
I think Doughty was better than Jones at 17 and has already had a very successful start to his NHL career. I wouldn't concede Jones will likely be better.

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I think Doughty was better than Jones at 17 and has already had a very successful start to his NHL career. I wouldn't concede Jones will likely be better.
He had a phenomenal season but I'm not so sure he was better. Jones looked liked he could have played in the NHL last season, I'm not sure Doughty could have at 18 let alone 17.

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Eklad AINEC

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Would you care to explain why it's not even close?

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Would you care to explain why it's not even close?
Jones reminds of Erik Johnson, really its pretty close

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jones imo

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Jones reminds of Erik Johnson, really its pretty close
And this is why you can't be taken seriously at all.

Johnson before suffering an ACL and MCL injury, missing the entire season showed and justified why he was a first overall pick.

What's funny is, Jones is definitely the better player between the two right now, but you and many others are counting on Ekblad to progress, which he obviously will as his draft year is 2 years away. And like we've seen with Johnson who's development has largely stagnated the same can happen to Ekblad there's a good possibility that even when he improves he won't be on the same level as Jones when his draft year comes up.

I remember just two years ago that between Doughty, Bogosian and Johnson, HFBoards deemed Johnson as the next great defenseman.

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Jones reminds of Erik Johnson, really its pretty close
Interesting comparison. btw I wasn't trying to attack your opinion, I was just curious about why you felt so strongly. I know next to nothing about these prospects and I appreciate everyone's thoughts here.

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Ekblad was the 2 player to get EPS...

I'd go with Ekblad, he's something special, he's gunna tear up the league for the next 2 years.

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Ekblad was born the exact same day as me.

Gotta go with Jones here, though.

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Hard not to choose ekblad. Just the fact that were comparing 2 players who are 2 years apart and think there close makes him almost a run away winner. Ekblad at 16 is almost as big as a lot of fully grown NHL defenseman

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Hard not to choose ekblad. Just the fact that were comparing 2 players who are 2 years apart and think there close makes him almost a run away winner. Ekblad at 16 is almost as big as a lot of fully grown NHL defenseman
Size shouldn't mean a thing. Jones could be 6'5" or taller when all's said and done. And Jones was near that size last year as well, IIRC.

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Size shouldn't mean a thing. Jones could be 6'5" or taller when all's said and done. And Jones was near that size last year as well, IIRC.
Jones is done growing (Height wise). He hasn't grown at all since The Hockey News did their article on him, and he was 14 going on 15 then. Ekblad seems to be growing a little bit, not by much (I suspect he'll be 6'4 or a little more by the time they measure him again sometime this year), but if Jones's ends up taller than he is now I'll be more than a little surprised. I've never seen someone who had an early growth spurt, stop than have another one.

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i said jones...

...but this poll screams for a "i'm not ready to guess at this point" option

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Jones is done growing (Height wise). He hasn't grown at all since The Hockey News did their article on him, and he was 14 going on 15 then. Ekblad seems to be growing a little bit, not by much (I suspect he'll be 6'4 or a little more by the time they measure him again sometime this year), but if Jones's ends up taller than he is now I'll be more than a little surprised. I've never seen someone who had an early growth spurt, stop than have another one.
It probably isn't common, but it happens. I hit 6' when I was 15, stalled for about a year and grew two inches between 16 and 18.

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Ekblad was the 2 player to get EPS...
I worded that poorly. Ekblad is one of only three players who have ever been granted "exceptional player" status. That's what I meant to say. And you are right, he is the second-ever player to recieve that recognition.

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It probably isn't common, but it happens. I hit 6' when I was 15, stalled for about a year and grew two inches between 16 and 18.
what were you like weight-wise? I'm not trying to be overly familiar with you or anything - i just mean that when you look at Jones, height/weight, he looks pretty "full grown" (obviously acknowledging that he'll still fill out weight/muscle wise a bit more).

by way of reference - look at 2011 picks Landeskog and RNH...RNH looked like someone who would probably get bigger - Landeskog didn't (except, again, for the additional weight you pick up moving from teens to 20s).

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Size shouldn't mean a thing. Jones could be 6'5" or taller when all's said and done. And Jones was near that size last year as well, IIRC.
Not only height, they are both 6'3 but one is 183 and one 207. Give or take one may have gained or lost, but that is still impressive size for someone ekblad's age. I mean technically he's still in high school

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He had a phenomenal season but I'm not so sure he was better. Jones looked liked he could have played in the NHL last season, I'm not sure Doughty could have at 18 let alone 17.
For real? Not trolling and I have never seen Jones play.

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For real? Not trolling and I have never seen Jones play.
Not a chance. Only defenseman who may have been able to play NHL last season, is Murray. But that's what worries me about him, he may be good enough right now, but his top potential isnt as high as other defensemen

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what were you like weight-wise? I'm not trying to be overly familiar with you or anything - i just mean that when you look at Jones, height/weight, he looks pretty "full grown" (obviously acknowledging that he'll still fill out weight/muscle wise a bit more).
I swam and played baseball so I was either at practice or in the gym six or seven hours each day, but trying to stay as lean as possible. I was around 160 when I was 15 and just under 190 by the time I stopped growing. It's a fair point though, because around 15 or so it was close to impossible to look anything other than skinny. By the time I was done growing it was much easier keep lean muscle.

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And this is why you can't be taken seriously at all.

Johnson before suffering an ACL and MCL injury, missing the entire season showed and justified why he was a first overall pick.

What's funny is, Jones is definitely the better player between the two right now, but you and many others are counting on Ekblad to progress, which he obviously will as his draft year is 2 years away. And like we've seen with Johnson who's development has largely stagnated the same can happen to Ekblad there's a good possibility that even when he improves he won't be on the same level as Jones when his draft year comes up.

I remember just two years ago that between Doughty, Bogosian and Johnson, HFBoards deemed Johnson as the next great defenseman.
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