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11-14-2013, 03:09 PM
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This sums it up quite well.

For example, the Penguins draft a lot of defensemen which they end up trading for wingers; Whitney for Kunitz and Goligoski for Neal+Niskanen.

The Bruins had a surplus of picks and prospects, so they moved some for Kaberle, Horton and Seidenberg.

If the Flames end up with a surplus of talented forwards, it's a) a great problem to have and b) it's easy to fix so long as the GM and management don't become overly attached to their players.
Still have no idea how Pittsburgh got away with that, but here's hoping we could ever rip off a team that bad.

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11-14-2013, 03:32 PM
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Always go for BPA, the Oilers are where they are because of 2 reasons.

1) After their first round picks they have little to show for their drafts, they simply have poor scouts or management that won't listen to said scouts.

2) They are hoarders the whole point of taking BPA is knowing that one day you will most likely have to make a trade. The Oilers have refused to make any real trades to help their team.
Oilers are obsessed with Oil King players. It seems their scouts don't get out much.

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Still have no idea how Pittsburgh got away with that, but here's hoping we could ever rip off a team that bad.
Same reason as the Phaneuf trade, not a lot of teams knew he was available and the Stars wanted something very specific back.

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I agree in that you draft for skill and trade for need, but all things being equal if 2 guys are there rated around the same then I draft for need.

Also Nylander sounds as if defence is the biggest hole in his game. I'd personally pass unless we are drafting around 8 and he falls there.

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11-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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Well, they did make a good move with Pajaarvif for Perron. I think that the big problem is point number one (something we don't seem to need to worry about), and the fact that they let their youngsters' value drop too much before looking to move them. Guys like Linus Omark were more attractive a few years ago, and probably could have been moved then.
The Perron trade was great for them but on the list of needs a agitating forward was well below a good backup that could push Dubnyk, a top line defenseman, a proven leader that can lead on ice and off ice and that can hold the kids accountable.

The Oilers have just let the kids do what they want and have no real foundation for them its a position to fail.

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11-14-2013, 04:31 PM
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This is much easier said than done and history shows that.
No one said it was easy but it is the best way to build a team.

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Still have no idea how Pittsburgh got away with that, but here's hoping we could ever rip off a team that bad.
If I recall correctly, it was a case of Nieuwendyk having tunnel vision syndrome with regards to Goligoski, while Niskanen was a cap dump. It was speculated that the Stars could have gotten a pick alongside Goligoski to make up the difference in value, but Nieuwendyk preferred shedding salary.

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11-14-2013, 07:32 PM
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Dal Colle or Bennett would be my choice if we're in that top 5 range. Both are fantastic players that create chances on their own. That quality is rare and them being able to play wing and center bolds well with that organization.

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11-15-2013, 12:20 AM
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Well, since the Oilers, Sabres and Panthers are making it excruciatingly hard to even reach the bottom three, I'm relying on either winning the lottery, Feaster making a backhanded trade with one of the three for top pick or drafting the next available D-man. Since we can't even tank properly this year I vote that next year we do it right!

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11-30-2013, 12:38 PM
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Right now we are sitting at the 5th overall pick which is right around where DalColle is suppose to go

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No one said it was easy but it is the best way to build a team.
It is, but I think you underestimate the difficulty, or rather chance that, that sort of plan will be possible to complete.

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11-30-2013, 10:03 PM
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I'd take Draisaitl if he's on the board 3rd or later.

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11-30-2013, 10:33 PM
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Right now we are sitting at the 5th overall pick which is right around where DalColle is suppose to go
Would you take him or Ritchie there?

With our last pick next year I want us to select McDavid, then I want Feaster to argue his interpretation of him not being eligible to draft.

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11-30-2013, 10:40 PM
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Would you take him or Ritchie there?

With our last pick next year I want us to select McDavid, then I want Feaster to argue his interpretation of him not being eligible to draft.
Really tough choice but from what I have heard DalColle is just a bit better.

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12-01-2013, 05:45 PM
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If we are in the 5-6 range and Ekblad has been taken (silly to think he wouldn't be) I say we try for Nick Ritchie. Big-bodied Power Forward type RW. Remember our last big-bodied power forward type RW? We need that feeling back. If we get a late 1st round pick I say we get Jacob Middleton.

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12-01-2013, 06:28 PM
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i hope we get ekblad and a powerforward too. but with porier and ferland looking good maybe we arent too desperate for a physical winger.

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12-01-2013, 06:35 PM
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We should also snag a goalie at some point in this draft.

Maybe Thatcher Demko? If it's possible.

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12-01-2013, 06:56 PM
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We should also snag a goalie at some point in this draft.

Maybe Thatcher Demko? If it's possible.
Very possible given that he is in the NCAA. Although Feaster and co seem to tend to defenseman in the 2nd round. Maybe if we pick up another 2nd.

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12-01-2013, 07:01 PM
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I'm still saying we pick about 5th. I'm calling Ritchie/Draisaitl. Then we trade Cammy to the Canuck's, they're ravaged by injuries and we pick Fleury with our second pick!

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12-01-2013, 09:40 PM
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I'm still saying we pick about 5th. I'm calling Ritchie/Draisaitl. Then we trade Cammy to the Canuck's, they're ravaged by injuries and we pick Fleury with our second pick!
Solid choices!

Lots of great picks in that 1 - 6 range! Reinhart, Ekblad, Dal Colle, Ritchie, Draisaitl, Bennett.

All of them have decent size too! I think the smallest guy is 6'0 (Bennett) with everyone else being 6'1+!

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12-01-2013, 09:55 PM
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I'm still betting that the Islanders and the Oilers draft after us, which means we're probably looking at third overall. The Panthers and the Sabres will probably draft forwards, which means we could still potentially draft Ekblad. I see it as:
1.) Reinhart-Sabres
2.) Dal Colle-Panthers
3.) Ekblad-Flames
4.) Bennett-Oilers (will most likely trade pick)
5.) Ritchie-Sabres (Not too sure about this one)
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???.) Thatcher Demko, Jacob Middleton, some LW (because Feaster likes drafting LWs)-Flames

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I'm still betting that the Islanders and the Oilers draft after us, which means we're probably looking at third overall. The Panthers and the Sabres will probably draft forwards, which means we could still potentially draft Ekblad. I see it as:
1.) Reinhart-Sabres
2.) Dal Colle-Panthers
3.) Ekblad-Flames
4.) Bennett-Oilers (will most likely trade pick)
5.) Ritchie-Sabres (Not too sure about this one)
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???.) Thatcher Demko, Jacob Middleton, some LW (because Feaster likes drafting LWs)-Flames
panthers will absolutely take ekblad

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panthers will absolutely take ekblad
Well then, let's hope they go on a long win streak because our defensive pool is worse than theirs is.

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Always go for BPA, the Oilers are where they are because of 2 reasons.

1) After their first round picks they have little to show for their drafts, they simply have poor scouts or management that won't listen to said scouts.

2) They are hoarders the whole point of taking BPA is knowing that one day you will most likely have to make a trade. The Oilers have refused to make any real trades to help their team.
Absolutely. I don't think they made any wrong choice with their 1st overall selections (you could debate Yakupov).

I'll give McTavish credit for signing Ference and Gordon but they have done little else to round out the team.

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If the draft was today, and things the lottery didn't shuffle the order of the teams, this is what I'd predict would happen - a lot like last year, with a high-ranked defenseman falling a few spots.

1. Buffalo - Sam Reinhart
2. Edmonton - Michael DalColle (I think they are confident enough in their defensive prospects and antsy enough about drafting a defenseman second overall that they will go for centre, which is a big need in their prospect pool)
3. Florida - Leon Draisaitl (if they opted for Barkov over Jones last year, and things are no different now, why would they select a defenseman now, especially when they need help on the wing?)
4. New York Islanders - Nick Ritchie
5. Columbus - Aaron Ekblad (and just when we thought we had him!)
6. Calgary - Roland McKeown

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