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12-13-2013, 12:36 PM
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Would you prefer 7 x 7 or 6.5 x 8

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Would you prefer 7 x 7 or 6.5 x 8
6.5 x 8. It's possible he retires and the extra year is wiped out anyway.

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Sweet - sign and trade coming up soon.
One can dream, but chances are there is going to be an ironclad no-movement/no-trade clause in there somewhere.

Nonis will be lucky to get a list of 10 teams or something...

Personally, i would love a sign/trade for Byfuglien or something but thats just a pipe dream lol

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Would you prefer 7 x 7 or 6.5 x 8
6.5 x 8, usually #1 dmen don't decline at dions age 8 years from now. Chara, Linstrom, Neidemyer, Pronger, etc.

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12-13-2013, 12:40 PM
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7x7 eh? Lets get it done!

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One can dream, but chances are there is going to be an ironclad no-movement/no-trade clause in there somewhere.

Nonis will be lucky to get a list of 10 teams or something...

Personally, i would love a sign/trade for Byfuglien or something but thats just a pipe dream lol
You want to go from Phaneuf to Byfuglien?

If you hate Phaneuf because of his supposed blunders, you'll want to commit suicide watching Byfuglien play defense.

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12-13-2013, 12:42 PM
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damn overpayment. hope it's not true.

They shouldn't go much more than $4 mill for 4 years, I see this guy declining big time.

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Perfect deal. He was getting 6.5 under a 6 year old cap so a .5 increase is only marginal.

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Would you prefer 7 x 7 or 6.5 x 8
7x7

That extra 500k is peanuts, and it gets his total off the cap sooner. If hes still a good player in 7 years, re-sign to a retirement contract.

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12-13-2013, 12:43 PM
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damn overpayment. hope it's not true.

They shouldn't go much more than $4 mill for 4 years, I see this guy declining big time.
#4 defenseman get 4x4 on the UFA market. Completely unrealistic.

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12-13-2013, 12:44 PM
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#4 defenseman get 4x4 on the UFA market. Completely unrealistic.
that's exactly what he would be on a cup contender. 3rd/4th D man.

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12-13-2013, 12:45 PM
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From what I understood it effects everyone who is above 35
If you sign a contract at age 35 and you retire early, the caphit remains.
If you sign a 5 year contract at age 34 and retire at age 37 lets say, there is only the recapture penalty from the new cba.
If Phaneuf signs a 7 year contract it will be done by the time he is 36. No cap implications other than his everyday caphit because he won't be retiring before then.

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damn overpayment. hope it's not true.

They shouldn't go much more than $4 mill for 4 years, I see this guy declining big time.
You cannot claim that Dion is declining when he's playing the best hockey of (at the very least) his Maple Leafs career.

I love HF. This is great.

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12-13-2013, 12:46 PM
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Not a steal by any means. He's about a million overpaid.
And how overpaid is the guy in your avatar?

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Well considering $250,000 in below the minimum salary for an NHL player, you maaaay be overshooting a bit.
He's overpaid by 6 million actually. I would only pay him at a negative cap hit.

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- talks about being overpaid
- has Clarkson has his profile pic

wut
I know Clarkson is overpaid. But those saying this 7 million a year is a steal of a contract are no wrong. That's all.

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12-13-2013, 12:48 PM
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considering the state of our D, whatever role he is put in going forward, it's clear we need this guy.

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Good news.

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that's exactly what he would be on a cup contender. 3rd/4th D man.
Nonsense. Hes a top pairing dman on most teams in the league.

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What's the source?

Did you look at the link in the OP?

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7x7 would be excellent.

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12-13-2013, 12:51 PM
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Nonsense. Hes a top pairing dman on most teams in the league.
agreed.

but most teams aren't cup contenders. That's all I'm interested in being. And you don't become a cup contender by paying a 3rd/4th dman 7+ mill.

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12-13-2013, 12:52 PM
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And how overpaid is the guy in your avatar?
What does that have to do with anything?

Both are overpaid. Just don't call this rumored 7 million a steal because it's not.

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agreed.

but most teams aren't cup contenders. That's all I'm interested in being. And you don't become a cup contender by paying a 3rd/4th dman 7+ mill.
So where are we getting "cup contender" top pairing dmen?

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You want to go from Phaneuf to Byfuglien?

If you hate Phaneuf because of his supposed blunders, you'll want to commit suicide watching Byfuglien play defense.
Was about to post literally this. If you dislike Phaneuf you'll hate Byfuglien.

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