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07-30-2005, 02:15 PM
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Official #56 Pick: MARC-ANDRE CLICHE

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any word on this guy?

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07-30-2005, 03:28 PM
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Was injured most of the year and played in 19 games for Lewiston with 8 points I believe. I guess Rangers really saw something when watching Paiement.
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Im going to have to say IMO this was the worst pick for the Rangers of the draft. Latendresse was still there and we passed him up.

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07-30-2005, 03:32 PM
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Not really we got Dupont on top of Cliche. I'd rather have those two then gamble on GLat.

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I dont know. at 45, in think he would have been worth the risk for a guy with his potential.

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I dont know. at 45, in think he would have been worth the risk for a guy with his potential.

What is his potential? I cant find any info on him.

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07-30-2005, 03:50 PM
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I think he's talking about Latendresse.

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Im going to have to say IMO this was the worst pick for the Rangers of the draft. Latendresse was still there and we passed him up.
How can you say "this is the worst pick for the rangers of the draft" before the draft is even over?

Have you seen Cliche play?

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07-30-2005, 03:52 PM
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i was talking about Latendresse, thanks.

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How can you say "this is the worst pick for the rangers of the draft" before the draft is even over?

Have you seen Cliche play?

Yea i saw him playing while he was injured the whole season. I go by what I read on him and no scouting services even rated him in the top 100.

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07-30-2005, 04:17 PM
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According to the CSS final rankings for North American skaters.

Cliche #49

Lattendresse #52

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07-30-2005, 04:18 PM
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Was it those same services that ranked a 159th pick Korhonen as a first or second? How about that JP Levasseur who is still undrafted. Outside rankings mean nothing, leave it up to the teams.

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Balej...Your preaching to the choir

You're right who cares about the outside scouting services

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07-30-2005, 04:53 PM
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Balej...Your preaching to the choir

You're right who cares about the outside scouting services
Then what does everyone go by? (fans). How are all these posters on the board coming up with rankings, players they want, etc. Im pretty sure nobody has seen any of them play if they have then maybe they saw 1%-2% of the players drafted..unless they go around and scout just for there entertainment.

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07-30-2005, 04:56 PM
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Fans...no we were talking about the teams themselves. I'm sure Tom Renney does not care what the CSS says about a player if he has seem him play himself.

That was the point.

Fans have no choice but to go by what the CSS, and ISS, Redline etc say.

case and point:

George McPhee was interviewed after drafting Pokulok (sp?) in the first round. He was told that all the scouting services had him rated much lower like in the 25-40 range.

McPhee said that he was high on their board.


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Fans...no we were talking about the teams themselves. I'm sure Tom Renney does not care what the CSS says about a player if he has seem him play himself.

That was the point.

Fans have no choice but to go by what the CSS, and ISS, Redline etc say.

case and point:

George McPhee was interviewed after drafting Pokulok (sp?) in the first round. He was told that all the scouting services had him rated much lower like in the 25-40 range.

McPhee said that he was high on their board.
Ah ok..I thought you meant that we shouldnt go by Scouting Services...teams I 100% agree...if they use them then that is just sad.

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07-30-2005, 05:29 PM
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Back to Cliche. Was he invited to play in any of the junior tourneys? Was Lewiston in the playoffs? Did he play well then?

To be drafted in the 2nd round after playing only 19 games is more than just a stretch.

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07-30-2005, 09:01 PM
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Cliche is a good player. You guys will see.

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I go by what I read on him and no scouting services even rated him in the top 100.
Well there's CSS's rating, and Red Line Report said they would likely have put him in their top 100 had he not been injured. In fact they suggested he might opt out of this year's draft with the expectation would be rising next year.

If they're right (if) and Cliche would have climbed into the late first next year, obviously he becomes a real value pick for Sather.

Time will tell but here's the scouting blurb:

The following three players all lost a substantial portion of their 2004-05 season due to major health issues, and while the agents indicated that all are still considering their options, it seems likely that each would do well to opt-out of this yearšs lottery and take their chances on returning to good health and gaining much more quality exposure to the NHL scouting community next season.

All three of these players would likely have been among Red Linešs top 100 prospects for the 2005 Entry Draft if healthy.

The first is Lewiston's Marc-Andre Cliche. The tall, rangy winger with good hands and offensive skills was only able to play in 17 games this season as a recurring shoulder injury shelved him early, and finally ended his season in January.


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07-30-2005, 09:11 PM
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Cliche is a good player. You guys will see.
Potential Patrice Bergeron II?

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Cliche is a good player. You guys will see.
Hopefully. He is this years from out of nowhere pick.

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Hopefully. He is this years from out of nowhere pick.
Uh, not really. He was rated 49th overall for NA skaters. It wasn't like he was an unknown. Kid has a ton of potential, just had a bad injury.

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Anybody know what the injury was? I think I heard a hip injury..or im thinking of someone else.....?

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He has a lot, lot of skill. Hopefully it can translate and that shoulder injury goes away.

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