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12-21-2013, 12:15 AM
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Once I see the team play their hardest every game and still lose, that is when Ill put all the blame on Melnyk, but for now the blame will be mostly on the players and coaching staff

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12-21-2013, 06:05 AM
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Karlsson sucks this year. Thats just my opinion. Nobody is coming to see a team that isn't special, with the best players being new additions this year. Spezza, Karlsson are still on IR from last year and the body doubles they have been replaced with are garbage.

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12-21-2013, 06:10 AM
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Karlsson sucks this year. Thats just my opinion. Nobody is coming to see a team that isn't special, with the best players being new additions this year. Spezza, Karlsson are still on IR from last year and the body doubles they have been replaced with are garbage.
I love how there's only two options: a player is literally amazing, or they suck.

Karlsson does not "suck" this year. He may not be having as good a season as 2 years ago, sure, but he's still an elite defenceman.

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12-21-2013, 06:30 AM
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I don't know what Karlsson you've been watching but hes been taking plays right out of Jason Spezza books. He gets points, but he hasn't been special. He has taken a few steps back defensively this year. Certainly not elite.

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12-21-2013, 06:37 AM
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I leave for a 3-week vacation in 14 hours, and a 3-week break from these boards can't possibly come soon enough.

Hopefully when I get back in mid-January everyone won't be jumping off ledges and making player assessments like the world is ending.

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12-21-2013, 07:39 AM
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I leave for a 3-week vacation in 14 hours, and a 3-week break from these boards can't possibly come soon enough.

Hopefully when I get back in mid-January everyone won't be jumping off ledges and making player assessments like the world is ending.
Hope you have a great time! Just so your expectations are realistic, when you get back the Internet will still be the Internet and sports fans will still be sports fans.

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12-21-2013, 08:43 AM
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Hope you have a great time! Just so your expectations are realistic, when you get back the Internet will still be the Internet and sports fans will still be sports fans.



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12-21-2013, 10:55 AM
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Can't believe no one has mentioned the location of the arena, which is great for people living in the west end and just awful for everyone else. Imagine living in Orleans, spending 30 minutes in traffic to get out of the parking lot, and another 30 minutes driving home...
Ottawa people just like to complain. In most major cities, it takes well over 30 minutes to go anywhere. Look at Toronto. It takes 30 minutes to go 5 blocks. Ottawa traffic is nothing for a city its size.

Ottawa really is a city of whiners and NIMBYs.

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12-21-2013, 11:21 AM
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I often wonder that myself. It was alluded to either earlier in this thread (or perhaps another thread), but this city has always had a strange aura.

It's hard to explain. The best way I can say it, is that it always feels like it's Monday morning in Ottawa.

It's funny, I spent nearly 20 years growing up and living in the city, and having a constant bit of malaise always felt normal. It's not until you move out of the city and go back (business, shopping, visiting, and whatever) that you really notice the unique Ottawa vibe.
Man, that's why the cup run was so awesome. It didn't feel like Ottawa.

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12-21-2013, 11:37 AM
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I leave for a 3-week vacation in 14 hours, and a 3-week break from these boards can't possibly come soon enough.

Hopefully when I get back in mid-January everyone won't be jumping off ledges and making player assessments like the world is ending.

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12-21-2013, 03:43 PM
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Hey, 1st post, welcome to HFBoards!

Seeing as how it's your 1st post, I'll mention here that the "arena location debate" has been done to death on this site, so much so that there's almost an unwritten rule that any off-ice problems the team has is due in some part to the location of the arena.

The "Arena in Kanata" argument is as old as time. The reason no one mentions it much in these threads (and why it hadn't been mentioned yet in this one) is that generally the consensus has been reached that the location is far from ideal, and any thread that involves attendance/revenue/etc... doesn't really need to discuss the issue, as it's a given that we've universally established that it's a negative.

Usually, when we have the "Arena Debate", the argument is "whether the Sens really had much of a CHOICE in the matter of where the arena was to be built" (for a myriad of reasons: prime NCC land like Lebreton not being made available for the arena, the infrastructure of our downtown core not being suitable for 44+ home dates worth of traffic, the fact that the Kanata land it was built on raised the money to build the arena itself, as the government wouldn't pitch in a single dime, etc...), but everyone universally acknowledges that the location itself is far from ideal.
OK... understood. Thanks for the welcome.

I live in Kanata so I have no complaints about the location, but I know a lot of people do. I share a half season with a friend, but with tickets regularly selling for $10 or less on stubhub, there is no excuse not to go if you are a fan.

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12-21-2013, 04:05 PM
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Bottom line this team is not worth the price of admission right now. If I wanted to spend money to feel angry and dissapointed, i'd go see Star Trek into Darkness again

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12-21-2013, 04:08 PM
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Today I went to my first Sens game this season, and wow it was depressing. I never seen such a crowd like tonight in all of the entire time that I went to Sens games in my life. I really hope it was just tonight, and other games were better. First there were a lot of empty seats, I know that's the real numbers and no gimmicks. But the 10, 000ish people there were so quiet it was disappointing. The Sens are playing in their home rink, and we "the fans" suppose to cheer them on and give them the energy and boost to help them win the game. I notice the atmosphere isn't that great like before, we are not cheering enough. Maybe that's why our team have such a bad losing record at home this year. Is it because the team is playing like crap and people know that they are not making the playoffs but still attend games because they are bored and have nothing better to do? It's just sad when I remember back then it was an amazing atmosphere, a true Canadian town hockey market. Now I look around its empty, and seems like not a lot of people care and just there for what reason I'm not sure. It's their money and they can cheer or do whatever they want, but come on guys our city's reputation may be ruined. Ottawa is suppose to be a hockey town!
You went to your first game on Friday? Where did you go ? I did not see a Sens game being played on Friday.

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12-21-2013, 04:14 PM
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12-21-2013, 04:33 PM
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Bring back Alfie next year That would help sell more tickets

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12-21-2013, 04:39 PM
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Alfie left. Spezza became Captain. People in Ottawa aren't stupid.

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12-21-2013, 05:08 PM
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Karlsson sucks this year. Thats just my opinion. Nobody is coming to see a team that isn't special, with the best players being new additions this year. Spezza, Karlsson are still on IR from last year and the body doubles they have been replaced with are garbage.
My vote for most unintelligent post of the year!!


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12-21-2013, 05:51 PM
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I leave for a 3-week vacation in 14 hours, and a 3-week break from these boards can't possibly come soon enough.

Hopefully when I get back in mid-January everyone won't be jumping off ledges and making player assessments like the world is ending.
While you are away I`m going to trade Spezza & Karlsson to Winn for Kane & Bogossian. That way you can have something fresh to talk about when you get back. Enjoy.

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12-21-2013, 05:54 PM
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Karlsson sucks this year. Thats just my opinion. Nobody is coming to see a team that isn't special, with the best players being new additions this year. Spezza, Karlsson are still on IR from last year and the body doubles they have been replaced with are garbage.
Right top point producer for defenceman in the league.. but ya karlsson sucks.

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12-21-2013, 06:07 PM
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Who wants to watch a loser? Two to the three hours is alot of time to invest into a garbage product especially if you don't get anything out of it.

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Who wants to watch a loser? Two to the three hours is alot of time to invest into a garbage product especially if you don't get anything out of it.
if we ever want to get to the level of Chicago, Pittsburg, San Jose, LA, Pho, St. Louis we need to be really bad for 2-6 seasons.

Just sucks we don't have our 1st pick this year.

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12-21-2013, 06:59 PM
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I look at going to a game as a night out. Its something to do, meet some new people, soak up the energy of the crowd. Buy some greasy food and have some fun. I don't base my having a good time or not on the results of the game. Even in games where the Sens lose badly there are still solid plays to be made. I get to see the whole ice, watch plays develop, get a better idea of the structure different teams use. I get to watch star players from other teams. There are lots of positives to be had even if the Sens lose.

Some people need the team to win to justify spending the money on tickets. I guess I just don't look at it that way. It's like going to the casino expecting to win, you're going to have a bad time.

Spend the money, expect to have fun and if you come home a winner all the better.

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12-21-2013, 07:04 PM
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Who wants to watch a loser? Two to the three hours is alot of time to invest into a garbage product especially if you don't get anything out of it.
Lots of people in this city had fun watching the Senators in the 90s before they even made the playoffs.

I think some people became fans during the 14 year run they had making the playoffs, for a good chunk of that with one of the most dynamic and talented teams in the league. That was a hell of a run, and it doesn't happen all the time. Very few teams have longer runs of success then that. Its a remarkable feet, not the standard.

THere are going to be down years, and stretches of them. The Sens overachieved the past two years and are back to reality, they're still building and they'll get there again. They have a lot of assets, good young players and vets that can bring a good return if they need to be traded. Not to mention arguably the best defenseman in the game, at the very least the most dynamic.

THe season isn't even over yet. The way they're playing it doesn't look like they're going to string together 5 consecutive wins, or do something like 8 points in 10 games. But its possible, and if it happens they're the team others will be chasing for the wildcard spot.

So much pessimism.

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Bottom line this team is not worth the price of admission right now. If I wanted to spend money to feel angry and dissapointed, i'd go see Star Trek into Darkness again
yup and yup.

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12-21-2013, 07:40 PM
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if we ever want to get to the level of Chicago, Pittsburg, San Jose, LA, Pho, St. Louis we need to be really bad for 2-6 seasons.

Just sucks we don't have our 1st pick this year.
As long as ryan resigns, that pick won't matter in the long run.


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Lots of people in this city had fun watching the Senators in the 90s before they even made the playoffs.

I think some people became fans during the 14 year run they had making the playoffs, for a good chunk of that with one of the most dynamic and talented teams in the league. That was a hell of a run, and it doesn't happen all the time. Very few teams have longer runs of success then that. Its a remarkable feet, not the standard.

THere are going to be down years, and stretches of them. The Sens overachieved the past two years and are back to reality, they're still building and they'll get there again. They have a lot of assets, good young players and vets that can bring a good return if they need to be traded. Not to mention arguably the best defenseman in the game, at the very least the most dynamic.

THe season isn't even over yet. The way they're playing it doesn't look like they're going to string together 5 consecutive wins, or do something like 8 points in 10 games. But its possible, and if it happens they're the team others will be chasing for the wildcard spot.

So much pessimism.
If the team is losing, its nice to see attendance dip. Keeps management on its toes, rather than be the leafs and sell out yearly for mediocrity.

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