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01-01-2014, 11:58 PM
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Wow. Even if they added Yandle there is a lot of head scratchers on that team. No way they medal.

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01-02-2014, 12:00 AM
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Can't ****ing believe Yandle was snubbed, as well as Ryan.

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We? I don't know about you but I sure don't feel any loyalty to USA hockey. Not with those clowns running the show. Same goes for the under twenty team.
Part of me hopes that USA gets the **** kicked out of them just to show how ****ing dumb the front office is.

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No way they medal.
I wouldn't go that far. All it takes is for Ryan Miller to stand on his head for 2 games and they take silver, then everyone looks like a genius. Ahhhh ... tournaments.

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01-02-2014, 12:08 AM
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13 pts in 40 games this season. Last Olympics zero pts in 6 games. Better to put Yandle on the team as a winger. Now if it were the summer games, I could think of one sport Dusty B would excel at.
Logic that supports my anger only confuses me

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01-02-2014, 12:30 AM
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if your love for yandle overrides your love for your country then i really can't argue
You aren't making any sense at all. The hockey team is not the country. The country is not the hockey team.

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01-02-2014, 12:36 AM
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You aren't making any sense at all. The hockey team is not the country. The country is not the hockey team.
Amen to that. Blind nationalism has never really served anyone well. Go Sweden.

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01-02-2014, 01:18 AM
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I just read the full ESPN article and my God Burke comes across as an idiot.

Lombardi prepares a whole stats reports and such for Yandle and Burke basically laughs it off as lawyer nonsense. I mean, what the actual ****.

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01-02-2014, 01:21 AM
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Go Sweden!

The US hockey program is a joke.

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01-02-2014, 01:32 AM
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OEL - 99%
Hanzal - 95%
Vrbata - 80%
Michalek - 95% (if healthy)
Klesla - 30%
Korpikoski - 75%
Smith - 5%
Doan - 1%

+ Boedker, Greiss would be locks had their teams qualified. (What the hell is up with Germany not qualifying?!)
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jesus people

yandle deserved to be on the team no doubt (and he still may end up there) but to turn against the country and hope they fail? that is just silly and childish.
Your argument would hold more if this were 1980 and not 2014.

Many of the olympic sporting events today have professional athletes in the games that are ideally meant more for anyone not a pro to be participating in historically speaking. The USA Men's Basketball Team have won a few Gold Medals in most Olympics since the Basketball Pros were allowed to start playing in the Olympics without facing alot of competition to getting the Gold. The USA Men's Hockey Team have a much harder task at winning the Gold seeing there is more competition towards winning a Gold Medal in Hockey than in Basketball. The USA Men's Team have not won the Gold since 1980 and have lost 2 times to Team Canada in the Gold Medal Game since the Pro's were allowed to play in Olympic Hockey. Expectations are very high(nothing less than Gold) for this team and adding certain players while rejecting certain ones is totally unacceptable.


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01-02-2014, 01:57 AM
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Your argument would hold more if this were 1980 and not 2014.

Many of the olympic sporting events today have professional athletes in the games that are ideally meant more for anyone not a pro to be participating in historically speaking. The USA Men's Basketball Team have won a few Gold Medals in most Olympics since the Basketball Pros were allowed to start playing in the Olympics without facing alot of competition to getting the Gold. The USA Men's Hockey Team have a much harder task at winning the Gold seeing there is more competition towards winning a Gold Medal in Hockey than in Basketball. The USA Men's Team have not won the Gold since 1980 and have lost 2 times to Team Canada in the Gold Medal Game since the Pro's were allowed to play in Olympic Hockey. Expectations are very high(nothing less than Gold) for this team and adding certain players while rejecting certain ones is totally unacceptable.
Well said.

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01-02-2014, 02:41 AM
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It is a ****ing joke that Yandle didn't make the team! I wonder if that would have been the case if he played in, lets say… toronto.

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I just read the full ESPN article and my God Burke comes across as an idiot.

Lombardi prepares a whole stats reports and such for Yandle and Burke basically laughs it off as lawyer nonsense. I mean, what the actual ****.
You didn't read it carefully, then. Burke makes a few cracks, but ultimately praises Lombardi for being a great lawyer and making a great case for Yandle. The coaching staff didn't want Yandle, that's why he's not there.

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01-02-2014, 02:53 AM
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Coaches are Bylsma, Richards, Laviolette, and Granato. Eastern bias?

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01-02-2014, 05:07 AM
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The Ducks are the best team in the league right now. Look at that forward group. You don't think that shelters someone like Fowler? Next you're going to claim that he's better than OEL because he has +4 on him.
Fowler has been great for us this season...and he deserved spot on roster.
Orpik and Faulk should be considered as guys replaced by Yandle.

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01-02-2014, 05:27 AM
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I was hoping to support team USA along with Yandle, despite having to hold my nose at Brown making the team. In the circumstances I too will be rooting for the Czechs and the Swedes and hoping that the US team crashes and burns.

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01-02-2014, 05:46 AM
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Someone compared it to Subban not making team Canada and that is probably a fair comparison. I was shocked that last year's Norris winner did not make the cut but the explanation seems to be, we don't have a real solid starter in goal and so they wanted the best defensive d-men in front of whoever gets the call to give us a chance.

This is not very fair to Subban either or the fans that support him but we haven't had an elite, world class goalie that can compete with the likes of Lundquist, Miller, Rask, and so on for quite some time and so I understand the reasoning but yet it still doesn't sit well and as many have always said, the best defence is a good offence.

But in fairness to Yandle, his defence has come a long ways. The problems seems to be that he is being evaluated on what he was five years ago. He has upped his defensive game a lot since those days and if these clowns watched as much hockey as they say they have, they might know that. And that is why they should listen to Lombardie cause he sees a lot more Yandle then the rest do.

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01-02-2014, 06:22 AM
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But in fairness to Yandle, his defence has come a long ways. The problems seems to be that he is being evaluated on what he was five years ago. He has upped his defensive game a lot since those days and if these clowns watched as much hockey as they say they have, they might know that. And that is why they should listen to Lombardie cause he sees a lot more Yandle then the rest do.
Yandle has been one of the top D in the league in terms of points at even strength for many years now. Playing for the Coyotes. A team that rarely could claim many legitimate top 6 forwards. In a defensive system. Anyone who thinks he is deficient just hasn't watched him.

He isn't going to erase a guy or bully them off the puck. That's a great exchange for what I imagine would be unparalleled transitional offense on the larger ice. It's real easy to win when you are constantly forcing odd man rushes and guys are having an easy time entering the zone.

Crock of ****, Burke and Co. Respect level for Lombardi went way up.

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01-02-2014, 06:48 AM
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Lidstrom never bullied too many people off the puck either and there is not a team anywhere that wouldn't love to have had him in his day. I always thought getting the puck out of your end quickly and accurately was good defence but I guess the higher ups, the experts, don't see that.
Totally agree with what you said about Lombardie.

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Before this season, I'd say Doan's chances were pretty low, but at the pace he was going, he was definitely playing his way onto the Canada roster, especially when he's known as such a strong leader and locker room guy. The Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever might've knocked him out of Team Canada.

CBC had a mini-documentary about picking Team Canada with Steve Y leading the proceedings. The only thing we know for sure is Carey Price is #1 G and Crosby and Getzlaf are both on the team. Smith's play lately has probably knocked him out of contention with things like letting 3 in on 10 shots vs Edmonton.

(link to doc http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows/ID/2427880548/ )

So that pretty much leaves our European contingent

OEL - Sweden
Boedker - Denmark
Greiss - Germany
Hanzal - Czech
Vrbata - Czech
Michalek - Czech
Korpikoski - Finland

I think everybody but Z depending injuries have a pretty good chance of making their teams. Korpi is on the bubble, but his speed might get him a spot.

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Yandle faces one of coaches who vetoed his selection tonight. This could be good.

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I don't even know where to start with this. It's been said before, but if Yandle played for Bylsma in Pit he would easily be their top d-man, no hesitation. Sutter should be there, then Shattenkirk and Yandle have about equal value in my eyes then everyone else on D is below them significantly.

Yandles defensive game has improved leagues the last couple seasons, and his strongest components like his skating, puck moving, and zone entry would be so much more valuable on the big ice. Complete bull **** that he got left off the team. I feel so bad for Yandle.

I guess as a Canadian now I won't be rooting for a team lead by Brown and that management at all, sorry my friends from below the border

Also can't believe some of the guys up front who made it over Ryan.

Gotta respect Lombardi for going to bat for Yandle, I won't hate his team as much anymore.

Finally on the olympic topic, NO SMITH for Canada plz. I like the guy, but if he makes the team and sits as the 3rd goaltender he will think that his performance has been good enough to get him there. I want him and his ego brought down to earth so he gets back to playing like he belongs to be in this league.

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Agreed on the Smith ego. He sucks when he's got swagger. Much better when he's got a chip on his shoulder and something to prove. I just hope he's doesn't have a temper tantrum when they don't pick him.

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In the last 3 seasons Yandle has finished 5th, 14th, and 12th in Norris voting. He just doesn't get any respect for the development in his game.

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