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01-01-2014, 07:49 PM
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Ryan is going to to see this as the first by product of playing in Canada whether true or not. Being left of the team is a direct result of not playing in the US. If he were on the Ducks right now he would be lighting it up and there would be no way he is left off.

If Ottawa misses the playoffs count that as another reason for him to bolt.
What does this possibly have to do with being in Canada?

The guy isn't an idiot. This has nothing to do with being in Canada this year.

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01-01-2014, 07:52 PM
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wheeler over ryan. lol

either i'm really underrating wheeler or just lol

oh well, better for the sens. sucks for ryan.
As a Jets fan I'll address this:

1) Wheeler has PK experience although he is not being used in that way this year
2) Wheelers skating is better
3) 11 goal December
4) Played with Stastny in the DEL and had great chemistry on international ice

Other than that, their numbers are actually very similar. In the past 3 seasons including this one Wheeler has 136 points to Ryans 123, but Ryan has more points this year.

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01-01-2014, 07:54 PM
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Brilliant point. Top notch analysis. I mean, how is Burke supposed to ever see Ryan play living in Calgary?

I'll be really upset when team Canada takes Tyler Bozak and Jason Spezza over Sidney Crosby and Ryan Getzlaf because they play in American markets.
Same thing happens in basketball when it comes to playing in Canada. Lack of exposure. Players see that as a loss of their marketability.

The California media doesn't talk about Bobby Ryan anymore as being a top notch player.

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01-01-2014, 07:57 PM
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They took Martin, Carlson, Fowler and Faulk over Yandle. That is a major wtf choice for me along with Ryan. That defense is pretty bad imo. Mobile but soft and inexperienced. I don't think Orpik will be too effective as a shut down guy on the big ice against the likes of Toews and Crosby. Highly doubt this team will be able to beat Canada, Russia or Sweden. But they have great goaltending so they have that going for them.
I can see taking Carlson, Fowler and Faulk over Yandle. They're all much better defensively, great skaters, and provide offence. I don't think Yandle is as good as they are and this American team is being underrated. Having Ryan or not doesn't make their team any better on international ice.

Honestly, this defence is pretty strong:

Suter - Shattenkirk
McDonagh - Faulk
Fowler - Carlson

Don't underestimate them.

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01-01-2014, 08:04 PM
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What does this possibly have to do with being in Canada?

The guy isn't an idiot. This has nothing to do with being in Canada this year.
It's about media hype and he gets none from the US now that he is in Canada.

If he were on Anaheim lighting it up with the same numbers it would be a bigger story getting left off.

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01-01-2014, 08:05 PM
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I can't ****ing believe this ****.

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I can see taking Carlson, Fowler and Faulk over Yandle. They're all much better defensively, great skaters, and provide offence. I don't think Yandle is as good as they are and this American team is being underrated. Having Ryan or not doesn't make their team any better on international ice.

Honestly, this defence is pretty strong:

Suter - Shattenkirk
McDonagh - Faulk
Fowler - Carlson

Don't underestimate them.
McDonagh and Faulk would be two sub 6 foot D that could end up getting matched up against a Perry and Getzlaf line. That would be comical to watch.

Anyways I don't really agree with your assessment of those guys being better than Yandle defensively. Especially Faulk and Fowler. Carlson has, in my opinion been pretty poor overall this year when I've watched him. I'm surprised he was even in the conversation let alone on the squad.

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01-01-2014, 08:16 PM
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Hopefully Ryan is pissed enough to teach them a lesson!! Hat trick tomorrow against Winnipeg!! And hopefully a big month for him before the Olympics! They will regret not taking him!!!!!!

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01-01-2014, 08:18 PM
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As a hockey fan. What a horrible decision.
As a Canada supporter, best thing that could have ever happened.

I want the US to finish in last place.

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01-01-2014, 08:25 PM
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Sucks for him.

But at the end of the day this is better for both the Senators and team Canada, so I'm totally cool with it.

Some of you are far too concerned with the bragging rights associated with the number of olympic participants on this team...

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McDonagh and Faulk would be two sub 6 foot D that could end up getting matched up against a Perry and Getzlaf line. That would be comical to watch.

Anyways I don't really agree with your assessment of those guys being better than Yandle defensively. Especially Faulk and Fowler. Carlson has, in my opinion been pretty poor overall this year when I've watched him. I'm surprised he was even in the conversation let alone on the squad.
Fowler has been all-world this season in games I've seen of Anaheim, and McDonagh is probably one of the most underrated D in the league despite the praise he gets. I would have no problems whatsoever sending him out against a Getlaf/Perry line and expecting him to excel. He's been New York's best player by far.

I guess we'll see how it goes for them!

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McDonagh and Faulk would be two sub 6 foot D that could end up getting matched up against a Perry and Getzlaf line. That would be comical to watch.

Anyways I don't really agree with your assessment of those guys being better than Yandle defensively. Especially Faulk and Fowler. Carlson has, in my opinion been pretty poor overall this year when I've watched him. I'm surprised he was even in the conversation let alone on the squad.
Well they're not Canada

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01-01-2014, 08:32 PM
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Sucks for him.

But at the end of the day this is better for both the Senators and team Canada, so I'm totally cool with it.

Some of you are far too concerned with the bragging rights associated with the number of olympic participants on this team...
Nobody seems to think that way from all the posts I've read. Where are you getting that impression? And what's wrong with wanting one of our players to get to live the Olympic dream?

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01-01-2014, 08:33 PM
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McDonagh and Faulk would be two sub 6 foot D that could end up getting matched up against a Perry and Getzlaf line. That would be comical to watch.

Anyways I don't really agree with your assessment of those guys being better than Yandle defensively. Especially Faulk and Fowler. Carlson has, in my opinion been pretty poor overall this year when I've watched him. I'm surprised he was even in the conversation let alone on the squad.
McDonagh is 6'1 and Faulk is 6'0. Average ish, not undersized.

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Hopefully Ryan is pissed enough to teach them a lesson!! Hat trick tomorrow against Winnipeg!! And hopefully a big month for him before the Olympics! They will regret not taking him!!!!!!
Hopefully Byfuglien isn't similarly motivated.

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Maybe Ryan will save that hat trick for the next game against Calgary & throw in a couple TRUCULENT hits to boot

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Makes sense to me... Who am I to question a cup winning GM
Yet you have a personal smear campaign against a gm that helped build that very same team that your man Burke won a cup with.

Good for you.

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Team USA has no idea what they're doing, they will get killed in Sochi they have no chance for a medal with that team. My 10 year old sister could have picked a better team what a bunch of morons.
But its all good for us Canadians one less team to worry about.

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Yet you have a personal smear campaign against a gm that helped build that very same team that your man Burke won a cup with.

Good for you.
Ouch.

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McDonagh is 6'1 and Faulk is 6'0. Average ish, not undersized.
Those are very generous listings. Kind of like how Alfie is always listed at 5'11 but he's more like 5'9

Size certainly isn't everything and those two are great in their own right, but I'd still be concerned as a coach when you have to face the world's best players.

USA is imo very weak on the back end and down the middle. I kind of expect Canada to manhandle them. I'm sure Quick/Miller will make it close but I don't see how this squad can compete with what TC can ice.

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I'm more baffled with Patches than JVR to be honest. The guy has 4 ****ing assists.
Well he's been more productive than Ryan since coming back up in 2011, also he's 8th in the NHL in goals per game this year. Ryan should be there, but I'm not sure Pacioretty being there is an issue. He's shown he can be a reasonable play maker despite the low assist totals in 32 games and he's scoring a pretty good pace.

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No Yandle and Bufygulien is really a big joke as well.

Ryan and Buffy especially raise their games huge in big game situations. You need those players to break games open for you when you're struggling to generate anything.

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Well he's been more productive than Ryan since coming back up in 2011, also he's 8th in the NHL in goals per game this year. Ryan should be there, but I'm not sure Pacioretty being there is an issue. He's shown he can be a reasonable play maker despite the low assist totals in 32 games and he's scoring a pretty good pace.
What? Ryan is the better scorer, passer and hitter.

To be honest, I can understand what they mean by he's a lazy skater, but I don't think there's many powerforwards in the game who are as clutch in hits and play as Ryan. He always raises his game huge in big games.

USA will regret that decision huge because of that one attribute he possesses.

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It's about media hype and he gets none from the US now that he is in Canada.

If he were on Anaheim lighting it up with the same numbers it would be a bigger story getting left off.
Actually this is all bs cause the US staff were nervous about a Ryan even before he came to Ottawa . read the espn article

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Also, watching Bobby play I've never had the sense that he's missing intensity. Perhaps Burke and Ryan just didn't see eye to eye and he's using this as a personal vendetta. There's no way a guy like Ryan wouldn't be of great help on a so-so American team that will not be scoring a lot.

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