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01-02-2014, 08:02 PM
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No way STL will do that trade.

No way we can afford ROR.

Fraser for Simmonds
I think Hitchcock would love Kulemin, that being said the plus would be the sticker might take a blue chip prospect or conditional 2nd rounder? No way Fraser get Simmonds IMO.

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I think Hitchcock would love Kulemin, that being said the plus would be the sticker might take a blue chip prospect or conditional 2nd rounder? No way Fraser get Simmonds IMO.
Yeah no way Fraser gets Simmonds. And I wouldn't trade Kadri alone for ROR.

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For all those people who want a Kadri-Larsson swap, please watch Larsson play.

He is awful at everything you want in a defenseman. There is a reason he plays the 8th most minutes for Dmen on his team. Yes I repeat he is NJ's #8 Defenseman.
I have watched him play, and that is why I want him targeted.

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Yeah no way Fraser gets Simmonds. And I wouldn't trade Kadri alone for ROR.
Wait Kadri isn't worth ROR? I went to the Avs board and pitched the following deal and they laughed.


Ryan O'Reilly
Stefan Elliott


Jake Gardiner
Mason Raymond
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I have watched him play, and that is why I want him targeted.
I've seen him too. The guy plays well. I wonder if the guy likes Liles?

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Wait Kadri isn't worth ROR? I went to the Avs board and pitched the following deal and they laughed.


Ryan O'Reilly
Stefan Elliott


Jake Gardiner
Mason Raymond
Carter Ashton
Tony Cameranesi
Brad Ross
people laughed at the schenn-jvr proposal on hfboards, but were shocked when it happened. i wouldn't put too much stock into opinions of other teams' fans cause they love to over value their own players and they also love to belittle leafs players as well.

having said that, i'd do a ROR for gardiner deal. 1 for 1. seems fair IMO.

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Habs and Sabres eh
Hmm

Paul Hendrick ‏@HennyTweets 2h
Rumblings indicate that a possible sabre/habs deal could be gathering momentum.

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Chatter between #habs and #sabres regarding Briere has taken place, but doesn't mean a deal is going to get done. He's been a scratch before

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Lots of Habs/Sabres talk going on. Haven't heard anything specific yet, but know MTL made it known that Briere (former Sabre) is available
wow.

I mean - I'm all jersey over name, but If I'm Briere i'd be feeling pretty about now. first being bought out by Philly - then you CHOOSE to sign with your home town, and then not even an entire season, and they are talking about trading you.

if it were possible to sign him - just because Briere goes beastmode! in the playoffs I'd get him just so he could be nahahananahabooboo on the Habs when we play them.

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people laughed at the schenn-jvr proposal on hfboards, but were shocked when it happened. i wouldn't put too much stock into opinions of other teams' fans cause they love to over value their own players and they also love to belittle leafs players as well.

having said that, i'd do a ROR for gardiner deal. 1 for 1. seems fair IMO.
Well that's not totally fair. ROR is a little better than Gardiner, but what your saying is true I guess.

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ROR may seem overratted but at the same time top notch two way play and some untapped offensive potential I see why he is highly valued. His stats may seem underwhelming but i think he is only gonna be better, similar to Couturier but likely much better.

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Makes no mistake, ROR is MUCH more valuable than Gardiner. If we want him, expect van Riemsdyk as the cost

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Lupul for Statsny straight up.

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Lupul for Statsny straight up.
Or you could just wait until July and keep Lupul...


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I dont want stastny on this team purely because he will get a big contract this off season. We already made two big signings.

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I'd love ROR on this team. Deal Kadri, Raymond + for him.

JvR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-ROR-Holland/Clarkson
Kulemin-Bolland-Clarkson/Holland
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I dont want stastny on this team purely because he will get a big contract this off season. We already made two big signings.
My cousin overheard a girl who dates a hockey player who writes for the New York Post.

Kadri,Clarkson,Franson for RNH. Nonnis has asked for a switch of first rounders and that is holding up the deal but Edmonton now desperate, is close to caving to media pressure. So you can nix the Statsny rumours.

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I'd love ROR on this team. Deal Kadri, Raymond + for him.

JvR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-ROR-Holland/Clarkson
Kulemin-Bolland-Clarkson/Holland
Orr-JayMc-D'Aimgo
So Colorado gets the pleasure of downgrading at center, why?

I think there has to be way more quality in there for Colorado to even entertain trading ROR for Kadri and Raymond is barely an asset

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My cousin overheard a girl who dates a hockey player who writes for the New York Post.

Kadri,Clarkson,Franson for RNH. Nonnis has asked for a switch of first rounders and that is holding up the deal but Edmonton now desperate, is close to caving to media pressure. So you can nix the Statsny rumours.
My uncle who has a drinking problem and also sometimes hears voices that nobody else hears told me the same rumor.

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My cousin overheard a girl who dates a hockey player who writes for the New York Post.

Kadri,Clarkson,Franson for RNH. Nonnis has asked for a switch of first rounders and that is holding up the deal but Edmonton now desperate, is close to caving to media pressure. So you can nix the Statsny rumours.
The writer himself probably isn't even a legitimate source

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01-02-2014, 10:39 PM
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Lol,so we are close?

Go back the last few years and look at the rumours and what percentage are even close.But yeah, I met your Uncle,he is a good guy.

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Ya think?

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The writer himself probably isn't even a legitimate source
But sources say...

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So Colorado gets the pleasure of downgrading at center, why?

I think there has to be way more quality in there for Colorado to even entertain trading ROR for Kadri and Raymond is barely an asset
Well, ROR is actually playing wing this year. And I did have a + there. And his qualifying offer this summer is around 6.5m, a figure the Avs may not want to pay. They didnt exactly have friendly negotiations last winter.

I'd move Kadri and Gardiner for ROR in a heartbeat.

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Well, ROR is actually playing wing this year. And I did have a + there. And his qualifying offer this summer is around 6.5m, a figure the Avs may not want to pay. They didnt exactly have friendly negotiations last winter.

I'd move Kadri and Gardiner for ROR in a heartbeat.
I would do Kadri and Gardiner for ROR as well. Would even add a bit more to that. Didn't think the + would be much considering you put Raymond as part of the deal

The only thing is knowing how much ROR will demand this off-season. Are we talking about 6 or 7 here?

If we acquired ROR, I would follow it up by trading Reimer and Franson for some cheap assets. 2 less RFAs to worry about this off-season and more money saved for ROR

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01-02-2014, 11:06 PM
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Sorry,price is too high.

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Well, ROR is actually playing wing this year. And I did have a + there. And his qualifying offer this summer is around 6.5m, a figure the Avs may not want to pay. They didnt exactly have friendly negotiations last winter.

I'd move Kadri and Gardiner for ROR in a heartbeat.
Kadri is a 60 to 70 pt. guy down the road and ROR is way overpaid. I would rather keep Kadri and just get Statsny for free. Asset amangement. I think Colorado overvalues their guys, which is why Statsny walks. We have Bolland, so ROR is just cap issues they have and we don't need.

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I dont want stastny on this team purely because he will get a big contract this off season. We already made two big signings.
If you think he's getting a contract as big as the one he has now, you're nuts. He's making 6.6 mil now and he got that deal when he was a 70+ points a season player. Colorado has been a pretty bad team since he got that contract and his point totals have dropped a bit. If he makes over 6 mil, I'll be surprised but some NHL teams will pay him more most likely because they know he's a #1C in this league and that hes a damn good C. Hopefully he'll play between Kessel and JVR at the olympics.

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Makes no mistake, ROR is MUCH more valuable than Gardiner. If we want him, expect van Riemsdyk as the cost
Make no mistake, the grass is not always greener on the other side.

Gardiner plays 22-25 minutes for us and is steadily progressing with the Leafs.

Trading for ROR whose qualifying offer would be huge isn't helping us at all.

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