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01-22-2014, 05:15 PM
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Nashville knows they arent winning the Cup anytime soon. And they need to add talent more than they need defensive minded defenseman. I think its a good trade for them, they may not need MDZ NOW, but he has lots of potential, and if he can reach it he can bring Nashville a hefty return down the road. Klein is what he is.

Both teams win in that trade I think.

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01-22-2014, 08:07 PM
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Klein fit their system to a T. He's Hammer. That team is screaming for an offensively gifted top six player. MDZ is not going to fix that offense.

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Klein fit their system to a T. He's Hammer. That team is screaming for an offensively gifted top six player. MDZ is not going to fix that offense.
Yes, but they need MUCH more than top 6 player, and arent winning in the playoffs anytime soon. May as well stock up on talent with great potential, in hopes of trading some of it for good players later. Klein isnt quite a Hjalmarsson, and is a dime a dozen. You'll get more for MDZ down the road than Klein, if MDZ gets back to where he was.

And maybe they realized their system isnt going to win them many games anymore.

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Klein is much more than dime a dozen. He'd immediately become the fourth best defenseman on our team, and you know I like Oduya and LOVE Leddy.

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01-22-2014, 11:21 PM
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Klein is much more than dime a dozen. He'd immediately become the fourth best defenseman on our team, and you know I like Oduya and LOVE Leddy.
He also has a good contract...he's signed through 2018 @ 2.9 aav. I just find the whole trade weird.

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01-23-2014, 12:23 AM
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The truth is that Poile acquired a defenseman with offensive upside because he's too incompetent to get the true top-six forward Nashville has needed since they became a franchise.

Having Trotz and Poile in our division is a blessing.

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Whatya mean, they got Stalberg didn't they?

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Klein is much more than dime a dozen. He'd immediately become the fourth best defenseman on our team, and you know I like Oduya and LOVE Leddy.
Meh, Nashville doesn't need him, they need talent with potential to get better. Klein isn't getting any better, MDZ could be a top 3 Dman soon.

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01-23-2014, 09:07 AM
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Meh, Nashville doesn't need him, they need talent with potential to get better. Klein isn't getting any better, MDZ could be a top 3 Dman soon.
He isn't becoming a top 3 on Nashville.

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He isn't becoming a top 3 on Nashville.
Leddy isn't becoming a top 3 in Chicago, doesn't mean he can't be a top 3 Dman.

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Leddy isn't becoming a top 3 in Chicago, doesn't mean he can't be a top 3 Dman.
I'll restate what I really am getting at then. MDZ is not becoming a #3 on a legitimate Cup contender.

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01-23-2014, 09:14 AM
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I'll restate what I really am getting at then. MDZ is not becoming a #3 on a legitimate Cup contender.
What's the lottery numbers for tonight? He has been a top 3 Dman on a contender already, no reason he can't do it when he gets older.

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01-23-2014, 09:24 AM
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What's the lottery numbers for tonight? He has been a top 3 Dman on a contender already, no reason he can't do it when he gets older.
So I'll never expect you to have an opinion again on where players project in the future.

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01-23-2014, 09:32 AM
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I'll restate what I really am getting at then. MDZ is not becoming a #3 on a legitimate Cup contender.
Yeah. I agree with you.

I wonder how his constant defensive miscues will go over with trotz.

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Yeah. I agree with you.

I wonder how his constant defensive miscues will go over with trotz.
The way Trotz has been throwing more goalies under the bus this season, I wouldn't be surprised if he started doing the same with MDZ.

I get the feeling his time in Nashville is coming to an end and he knows it.

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01-23-2014, 10:27 AM
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Meh, Nashville doesn't need him, they need talent with potential to get better. Klein isn't getting any better, MDZ could be a top 3 Dman soon.
And Klein is a top 3 D now. They took a pretty decent risk to bring in a guy who tops out marginally better than the guy they moved out. Clown shoes organization spinning its wheels without taking any steps to fix the actual problem.

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And Klein is a top 3 D now. They took a pretty decent risk to bring in a guy who tops out marginally better than the guy they moved out. Clown shoes organization spinning its wheels without taking any steps to fix the actual problem.
I doubt he tops out. He'll end up being a fringe 4/decent 5 most likely (in MY opinion).

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Pfft, you got some lottery numbers to go with that opinion?

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Pfft, you got some lottery numbers to go with that opinion?
If only.

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The way Trotz has been throwing more goalies under the bus this season, I wouldn't be surprised if he started doing the same with MDZ.

I get the feeling his time in Nashville is coming to an end and he knows it.
He should be fired. He seems like an awful, soul sucking coach to have.

I wonder if Housley could take over...if Trotz was fired this summer then Housley would have been an assistant coach for a year.

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And Klein is a top 3 D now. They took a pretty decent risk to bring in a guy who tops out marginally better than the guy they moved out. Clown shoes organization spinning its wheels without taking any steps to fix the actual problem.
No he's not. He is a 4 at best.

MDZ has far more offensive upside than Klein, AINEC. The defensive side of the game can be worked on, and Nashville has been pretty good at developing players on the defensive side of the puck. They don't need defensive minded defenseman. MDZ was the Rangers top 3 Dman when they went to the ECF a couple years ago, no reason he can't reach that level again.

Also, MDZ's trade value in 3-5 years will be MUCH higher than Kleins I'm willing to bet. Nashville isn't coming close to a Cup in the next 3-5 years, so who cares who is better right now? They need more than 1 top 6 forward to solve their issues, so why not take a slight step back and get better picks?

And since you like Klein so much, I guess you would probably trade Leddy for him?

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Pfft, you got some lottery numbers to go with that opinion?
Saying I doubt something happens is a lot different than saying he won't be this or that.

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Saying I doubt something happens is a lot different than saying he won't be this or that.
Not really. It's all predictions in the end.

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Saying I doubt something happens is a lot different than saying he won't be this or that.
Next time I will hedge for you.

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Not really. It's all predictions in the end.
The way it was stated it made it seem like he thought it was fact and not to be argued with. And considering he has already been a top 3 Dman on a contender..

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