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01-08-2014, 12:37 PM
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Byfuglien to Isles

Dustin seems to be on the outs in Winny......what would it take to get him to the Isles?

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01-08-2014, 12:44 PM
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Okposo and a 2nd

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Quick question. Would there be any consideration in moving Buff back to the wing? His knock is his footspeed and decision making on the back end, which wouldn't be as much of a concern on the wing. I just remember how impactful he was in the Cup finals against the Canucks. He was so effective in front of the net and made life hell for Luongo and the Canucks defense. Maybe even a guy you switch back and forth depending on the opposing team?


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I'm personally not looking for him to be on offense for the Isles.....I'm asking because I feel the Isles really need a point shot on D. The one thing we are missing from Streits departure (since we do have puck movers) is his point shot.
To many teams cover down low on us because there is no point shot threat.

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Okposo and a 2nd
I'd do it.

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Okposo stays.......Bailey + pick (2nd) + D prospect (Ness)

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I'd do it.
Haha! Ya think? Look at production AND contract status and determine if the nyi would make that deal. My guess is that they would not.

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From a Jets perspective, its either we get Okposo back or no deal. With Seto gone by the end of the year and no replacement in the org, top 6 RW is one of if not the biggest need of the Jets. Although our goaltending is below average, we have decent prospects that we hope can produce in a few years. Defense prospects are pretty much useless to us as well due to it being an organizational strength.

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Okposo stays.......Bailey + pick (2nd) + D prospect (Ness)
It would take more than that but if they're willing to take it then I'll take it and run.

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Okposo stays.......Bailey + pick (2nd) + D prospect (Ness)
No real interest in Bailey. His stats are extremely underwhelming.

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No real interest in Bailey. His stats are extremely underwhelming.
So is everything about him except his dashing good looks at charity events.

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I think if the Isles were legitimately interested in Byfuglien they'd definitely have the assets to get him out of Winnipeg. Guys like Nelson, De Haan are very attractive to the Jets and the Isles have a lot of other guys that aren't 'top' prospects but are fairly close to being NHLers.

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With Nielson and Nelson, how highly do the Isles value Strome?

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With Nielson and Nelson, how highly do the Isles value Strome?
Probably more than either of them. Don't even bother asking about Strome, he's not available.

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Quick question. Would there be any consideration in moving Buff back to the wing? His knock is his footspeed and decision making on the back end, which wouldn't be as much of a concern on the wing. I just remember how impactful he was in the Cup finals against the Canucks. He was so effective in front of the net and made life hell for Luongo and the Canucks defense. Maybe even a guy you switch back and forth depending on the opposing team?
Byfuglien can't create offence from the wing. If you have elite forwards who can drive possession and allow him to play off of them in the zone, he could be a good fit on the wing. He's reluctant to play that position though too.

His foot speed as a D isn't bad, just a matter of when he decides to use it and the bad positions he puts himself in where foot speed is irrelevant (at least among humans as currently constructed).

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I think if the Isles were legitimately interested in Byfuglien they'd definitely have the assets to get him out of Winnipeg. Guys like Nelson, De Haan are very attractive to the Jets and the Isles have a lot of other guys that aren't 'top' prospects but are fairly close to being NHLers.
None of those guys are available though.

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I suppose the question is.

Who on the Islanders is available?

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It would require the Islanders giving back one of their "untouchable" guys. Buff's too good, maybe they could get a deal around Nielsen++, but even then I doubt it.

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No way in hell Okposo is going. Giving away Strome could come back to bite us in the ass later.

I'd love big buff's ass in front of the opposing goalie's net at the barn but I really cant endorse a trade for anyone except the Bailey trade proposed here, but thats kind of fleecing the Jets which could come back to bite us when they realize the mistake they made and we want someone else from them.

Then again, I really haven't watched Winnipeg enough to figure out what they need. Obviously not guys like Kane since they're shopping him. Maybe goaltending? Its not like we really have much to give away there.

I honestly don't think theres a way to make this work without us giving too much or fleecing the jets and I don't think the Jets are going to give up a probable franchise guy for peanuts..

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If you want an elite offensive (key word offensive) defenseman then you better not have too many untouchables. He's not a guy you deal for quantity.Jets need quality pieces back, so take some of the guys off your untouchables list and ask again.

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If you want an elite offensive (key word offensive) defenseman then you better not have too many untouchables. He's not a guy you deal for quantity.Jets need quality pieces back, so take some of the guys off your untouchables list and ask again.
Isles can't make a move like this. The valuable prospects are not going to be traded, and after dealing off a 1st and 2nd for Vanek, it's doubtful that they'd be willing to part with even more picks(which probably wouldn't interest you anyway).

The only player I see the Isles going for is a goalie who will only cost a 2nd and/or a B-prospect. Either that or they will just sit tight and hope that the current group can continue this current streak.

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The Islanders should run away it's not a good thing to get slow defensemen that can't play defense. The pieces needed would be better used elsewhere.

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If you want an elite offensive (key word offensive) defenseman then you better not have too many untouchables. He's not a guy you deal for quantity.Jets need quality pieces back, so take some of the guys off your untouchables list and ask again.
Quality pieces are not on the table though.

So, yeah, probably isn't a deal.

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Quality pieces are not on the table though.

So, yeah, probably isn't a deal.
That's fine then. The op asked what it would take and I guess an answer of "more than the Isles would pay" would have sufficed.

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That's fine then. The op asked what it would take and I guess an answer of "more than the Isles would pay" would have sufficed.
I don't speak for all island fans though. OP may see it different.

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