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Would Team Ontario or Team Quebec Medal in the Olympics?

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01-11-2014, 11:07 AM
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Are you serious ? The Ontario team could beat Canada's olympic team.

If Ontario would have a team, it would be definitely still stronger than Russia on paper IMO and a serious candidate for gold.

Canada could ice easily 4 teams with a legitimate chance for gold.
Only in your dreams. Read my previous post and you Will find a answer. Reality is harsh

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01-11-2014, 11:16 AM
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2012
KEITH Duncan
3 PHANEUF Dion
4 BOUWMEESTER Jay
5 SCHENN Luke
7 RUSSELL Kris
9 KANE Evander
10 PERRY Corey
14 EBERLE Jordan
15 GETZLAF Ryan
16 LADD Andrew
20 TAVARES John
22 QUINCEY Kyle
24 BENN Jamie
26 PURCELL Teddy
27 MURRAY Ryan
30 WARD Cam
31 HACKETT Matt
33 METHOT Marc 37 O REILLY Ryan
40 DUBNYK Devan
41 BURROWS Alexandre
44 VLASIC Marc Edouard
53 SKINNER Jeff
81 SHARP Patrick
93 Nugent hopkins

Out of semi finals

2013
HAMHUIS Dan
3 ROBIDAS Stephane
4 HALL Taylor
5 DILLON Brenden
7 BRODIE T J
8 SCHWARTZ Jaden
9 DUCHENE Matt
11 STAAL Jordan
12 STAAL Eric
14 EBERLE Jordan
16 LADD Andrew
17 SIMMONDS Wayne
19 SCHULTZ Justin
22 SCHENN Luke
24 READ Matt
28 GIROUX Claude
40 DUBNYK Devan
41 SMITH Mike
44 HARRISON Jay
51 CAMPBELL Brian
53 SKINNER Jeff
76 Subban
91 Stamkos Steven
90 O reilly Ryan

Out of semifinals

And so on 2011 and 2010, but the level of competition is much lower at WC than at Olympic games.

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01-11-2014, 11:29 AM
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in 2010, we lost 2-5 to the olympic russian team basically, with probably the worst team we have ever sent to the WHC.

in 2011, we lost 1-2
in 2012, we lost 3-4 I believe
in 2013, we lost after SO

Yeah, horrible, tough loses.

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01-11-2014, 11:45 AM
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Rough Quebec roster:

Pascal Dupuis - Patrice Bergeron - Martin St. Louis
Alex Burrows - Mike Ribeiro - David Perron
P.A. Parenteau - Vincent Lecavalier - Jonathan Huberdeau
David Desharnais - Max Talbot - Alex Chiasson
Alex Tanguay
Danny Briere

Marc-Edouard Vlasic - Kris Letang
Francois Beauchemin - Jason Demers
David Savard - Stephane Robidas
Marco Scandella
Simon Despres

Roberto Luongo
Corey Crawford
M-A Fleury

Goaltending is definitely a strength.
Wow, what happened to the Anglos?

Outmigration?

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01-11-2014, 01:15 PM
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in 2010, we lost 2-5 to the olympic russian team basically, with probably the worst team we have ever sent to the WHC.

in 2011, we lost 1-2
in 2012, we lost 3-4 I believe
in 2013, we lost after SO

Yeah, horrible, tough loses.
Defeat is defeat...main point is that Canada have failured with pretty good rosters( 2012 and 2013 were very good ones) at WC. So stop talking nonsense about 4 mighty Canadian teams, when these teams can not achieve nothing at lower level.

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01-11-2014, 04:49 PM
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Quebec wouldn't be amongst favourites but I don't see how it would have "no chance" to medal.

They definitely would have a medal contending team.
Slightly OT:
Think about how fun it could have been, if every team from Canada to Norway could have a 3 weeks training camp, with a couple of exhibition games in there to become real teams, and get used to the bigger surface. But that's impossible because of several leagues sick schedule like NHL's 82 games regular seasons. But it's free to dream.
Think about the entertainment of all that talent with fresh legs, real ice surface several weeks old. Oh, what games it could have been.

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01-12-2014, 11:56 AM
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Canada should become Europe of North america and give independence for its every country
Those teams would be really good teams.

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01-12-2014, 03:24 PM
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Team Ontario would be a clear medal contender at Sochi. The only way Team Ontario could not medal is if they had to face hot Team Canada or Russia or Sweden in the quarterfinals.

Team Quebec would be on par with Finland and would make the quarterfinals for sure but would have a 50/50 chance against the big 6, imo.

Team BC would be like Slovakia level. They could make the quarterfinals or possibly lose in the group stage.

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01-12-2014, 03:25 PM
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wow, what happened to the anglos?

Outmigration?
lmao

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01-13-2014, 07:51 PM
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No Pominville, no Stastny?
Pominville is an American citizen and though Stastny could play for Canada(Quebec in this sense) and Slovakia, he chooses to play for the USA.

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01-14-2014, 09:28 AM
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Relevant:

The Ultimate ‘NHL 13′ Xbox Experiment

The NHL may be mired in a work stoppage, but people in Canada still want to talk about hockey, so here’s a potential topic of discussion: If each province had its own all-star team comprised solely of homegrown players, and those teams played against one another in an inter-Provincial Hockey Championship, which province would win?
go Prince Edward Island!

the strongest state in the U.S. would be Minnesota, they have 8 of the 25 on the U.S. roster, could probably beat Norway


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01-14-2014, 10:15 AM
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What is the original question, anyway? Is it to wonder whether Team Province X could medal, or where it might place itself on paper rankings?

If the former, the answer is yes, any of those teams could medal. Any squad with a reasonable amount of NHLers on its roster can medal in a tournament like this.

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01-14-2014, 10:17 AM
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PEI, all 140K of them, could still ice a decent team with the likes of Brad Richards, Steve Ott and Adam McQuaid. They could def beat Norway if they got a few bounces.

Come to think of it, Regina alone (Getzlaf, Hartnell, Kunitz, Eberle, Bozak, Glass etc) could put together a pretty dangerous team as well.

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01-14-2014, 10:50 AM
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Well if Pominville, Stastny and Galchenyuk play for the USA than there could be cases like that also if we were to make teams by Provinces.

For exemple Toews' mother is from Quebec therefore, if there was no Manitoba team, he could choose to play for Quebec.

Giroux was born on the border but I'm not sure about his parents' situation. I know he speaks good Quebec french without an accent but that doesn't mean anything.

Point in case, if Quebec were to have a team for political reason (you know...) there would be a lot of ''Behind the scenes'' work. There are so many players that can't make Team Canada but deserves to be on it, that they would find a way to make Team Quebec (like Pominville made team USA, etc). If they have french connections than they're bingo.

Also, players like Brodeur, Lecavalier, Luongo, etc who have played for Team Canada in the past I'm not sure would be allowed to play for Quebec.

Anyhow, I think Quebec would need to start in the lower IIHF divisions and therefore no NHLer would play for them during the tournaments (or not many). Therefore it might take a while for Quebec to rise through the rankings (look at Denmark they have a lot of NHLers and couldnt classified for the Olympics).

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01-14-2014, 11:26 PM
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Patrick Kane is not Canadian. Would you consider Taylor Hall and Albertan or a Ontario player? He's an Ontario player.
Alberta, zero doubt.

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Well if Pominville, Stastny and Galchenyuk play for the USA than there could be cases like that also if we were to make teams by Provinces.

For exemple Toews' mother is from Quebec therefore, if there was no Manitoba team, he could choose to play for Quebec.
He would need to play 2 years in Quebec first

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Also, players like Brodeur, Lecavalier, Luongo, etc who have played for Team Canada in the past I'm not sure would be allowed to play for Quebec.
Of course they would.

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01-15-2014, 01:29 AM
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Pominville is an American citizen and though Stastny could play for Canada(Quebec in this sense) and Slovakia, he chooses to play for the USA.
Stastny could not play for Slovakia, since he does not meet the requirement of having played in Slovakia for 2 years at club level.

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PEI, all 140K of them, could still ice a decent team with the likes of Brad Richards, Steve Ott and Adam McQuaid. They could def beat Norway if they got a few bounces.


Nope.

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Giroux is from Hearst a francophone town in Northern Ontario. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearst,_Ontario

I think he played in the QMJHL because he wasn't drafted in the OHL

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Team Ontario:

L C R
John Tavares Steven Stamkos Jeff Carter
James Neal Claude Giroux Corey Perry
Rick Nash Matt Duchene Logan Couture
Jordan Staal Eric Staal Tyler Seguin
  Jason Spezza 

Ex: Mike Cammalleri

D D
Marc Staal Drew Doughty
Mark Giordano Alex Pietrangelo
Brian Campbell PK Subban
  Dan Boyle

Ex: Dan Girardi

G
Mike Smith
Steve Mason
Brian Elliot

Defense is weak on the left side and the goaltending could be better. Offense would definite carry this team.

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Team Quebec:

L C R
Alex Tanguay Vincent Lecavalier Martin St. Louis
Mike Ribeiro Patrice Bergeron David Perron
Pascal Dupuis Antoine Vermette Derick Brassard
Alex Burrows Maxime Talbot Steve Bernier
Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau  

Ex: Daniel Briere

D D
Marc-Edouard Vlasic Jason Demers
Francois Beauchemin Kris Letang
Simon Despres Marco Scandella
David Savard

Ex: Bruno Gervais

G
Roberto Luongo
Martin Brodeur
Corey Crawford

Offense is much older and doesn't have a gamebreaker. Defense still has a strong top-2 pairing, but the 3rd pair and extras are much weaker. Goaltending is still strong enough to make this team a contender.

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Team Quebec

I've been wondering what Quebec's team would look like if they were to separate from Canada as they'd like to. They only have 3 players on the current team(Luongo, Vlasic and Bergeron), but have a lot of guys who were on the fringe. This is the team I put together for them, what do you guys think, and how do you think they'd do in Sochi?

Alex Tanguay - Vincent Lecavalier - Martin St. Louis
David Perron - Patrice Bergeron - Jason Pomminville
Derick Brassard - Mike Ribero - Alex Burrows
Pascal Dupuis - Antoine Vermette - Max Talbot
PA Parenteau - Jonathan Huberdeau

Marc-Edouard Vlassic - Kris Letang
Francois Beauchamin - Stephane Robidas
Marco Scandella - Jason Demers
Simon Despres - David Savard

Roberto Luongo
Marc-Andre Fleury
Corey Crawford

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I've been wondering what Quebec's team would look like if they were to separate from Canada as they'd like to. They only have 3 players on the current team(Luongo, Vlasic and Bergeron), but have a lot of guys who were on the fringe. This is the team I put together for them, what do you guys think, and how do you think they'd do in Sochi?

Alex Tanguay - Vincent Lecavalier - Martin St. Louis
David Perron - Patrice Bergeron - Jason Pomminville
Derick Brassard - Mike Ribero - Alex Burrows
Pascal Dupuis - Antoine Vermette - Max Talbot
PA Parenteau - Jonathan Huberdeau

Marc-Edouard Vlassic - Kris Letang
Francois Beauchamin - Stephane Robidas
Marco Scandella - Jason Demers
Simon Despres - David Savard

Roberto Luongo
Marc-Andre Fleury
Corey Crawford
I think they would get killed unless Luongo stood on his head....I honestly thought that team Quebec would have more high end forwards.

I'll try to come up with a team BC to match-up.

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Team BC

Milan Lucic - Jamie Benn - Kyle Turris
Andrew Ladd - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Ryan Johansen
Evander Kane - Mike Santorelli - Troy Brouwer
Chuck Kobasew - Shawn Horcoff - Brett Connolly
Aaron Volpatti - Brent Bulmer

Dan Hamhuis - Shea Weber
Karl Alzner - Brent Seabrook
Josh Georges - Jason Garrison
Willie Mitchell - Justin Schultz

Carey Price
Martin Jones
Jason LaBarbera

H.M. Brandon Yip, Morgan Rielly, Schott Hannan, Barrett Jackman , Tyson Barrie, Patrick Wiercioch, Cody Franson, Brenden Dillon, and Matt Irwin (there are a lot more dmen than forwards from BC).

I'd suggest that this team would beat most NHL teams but would lose to AB and ON. I think they could beat QB because they could likely shut them down with their defense.

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Milan Lucic - Jamie Benn - Kyle Turris
Andrew Ladd - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Ryan Johansen
Evander Kane - Mike Santorelli - Troy Brouwer
Chuck Kobasew - Shawn Horcoff - Brett Connolly
Aaron Volpatti - Brent Bulmer

Dan Hamhuis - Shea Weber
Karl Alzner - Brent Seabrook
Josh Georges - Jason Garrison
Willie Mitchell - Justin Schultz

Carey Price
Martin Jones
Jason LaBarbera

H.M. Brandon Yip, Morgan Rielly, Schott Hannan, Barrett Jackman , Tyson Barrie, Patrick Wiercioch, Cody Franson, Brenden Dillon, and Matt Irwin (there are a lot more dmen than forwards from BC).

I'd suggest that this team would beat most NHL teams but would lose to AB and ON. I think they could beat QB because they could likely shut them down with their defense.
Duncan Keith considers himself to be a Penticton boy so you could probably throw him on the top-pairing.

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Pominville has played for the USA and is therefore ineligible.

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