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01-12-2014, 01:01 AM
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Flyers definetly deserved a better outcome but they've got away with some lackluster play in some recent games and yesterday we received the short end.

Happens.

But better win tonight. Rangers will be ready for the game.

From what I saw, Vinny played very effective. Created a lot of chances, used his shot frequently and was active in the O.

Still, the Coots line needs to be fixed ASAP. Start with Downie.

The way it looks right now, he'll be the odd man out come next season. B.Schenn and Raffl (even McGinn) were much more effective. Factor in the injury history, it doesn't look any better for him.

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01-12-2014, 01:33 AM
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This lightning team put up 6 on us, without Stamkos... and they have Drouin who will be an impact when he gets to the NHL.

That is a scary thought...

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01-12-2014, 02:52 AM
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no hartnell was not good and vinny looked great are you blind ??? he single handedly created so many opportunities nice dekes great passing good shots, did you watch the game or just wanting to be apart of something on here although schenn and simmonds looked good
Hartnell was really neither good nor bad, but at least his line was great, he didn't make any amazing plays but he also didn't do anything horrible. I'm not a big fan or Hartnell's but I am realistic.

Vinny was basically useless, he didn't do anything whatsoever and his line wasn't good. Saying he looked great is either a lie or a show of your lack of common sense. What could you possibly point out that was great? He didn't have any great scoring opportunities, he didn't make any great passes that almost resulted in a goal, and since he was put on that line Couturier has done nothing offensively and hasn't been as good defensively.


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01-12-2014, 02:58 AM
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LOL. Even the best players in hockey make mistakes.
All I can say is that Carle was the 2nd best FA defenseman available after Suter.

We could have retained him but thought Coburn was a better player, why I don't know?

In fact, Carle is better than Streit who we signed to replace him.
Holmgrin has no clue how to build a team ---LOL
Saying Carle was the 2nd best F/A available isn't saying much since defenseman who are actually good usually don't become F/As unless they don't want to stay on their current team.

You may not like how Homer builds teams but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about either so you're in no position to judge.

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01-12-2014, 09:25 AM
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Hartnell was really neither good nor bad, but at least his line was great, he didn't make any amazing plays but he also didn't do anything horrible. I'm not a big fan or Hartnell's but I am realistic.

Vinny was basically useless, he didn't do anything whatsoever and his line wasn't good. Saying he looked great is either a lie or a show of your lack of common sense. What could you possibly point out that was great? He didn't have any great scoring opportunities, he didn't make any great passes that almost resulted in a goal, and since he was put on that line Couturier has done nothing offensively and hasn't been as good defensively.

And good try at being witty there, all you did was make yourself look bad.
hartnell looked horrible turnoverers stupid penalty yet again he just took up space, vinmy set up vorachek with a beautiful one timer he took good shots he was a man possessed that game but i guess since he didst score he was useless?


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Hartnell was really neither good nor bad, but at least his line was great, he didn't make any amazing plays but he also didn't do anything horrible. I'm not a big fan or Hartnell's but I am realistic.

Vinny was basically useless, he didn't do anything whatsoever and his line wasn't good. Saying he looked great is either a lie or a show of your lack of common sense. What could you possibly point out that was great? He didn't have any great scoring opportunities, he didn't make any great passes that almost resulted in a goal, and since he was put on that line Couturier has done nothing offensively and hasn't been as good defensively.


I don't think we watched the same game. Vinny was all over the ice, he made multiple very nice plays in the offensive zone. He also made a few very nice passes and actually contributed positively on multiple shifts in the defensive zone for what may be the first time at wing. I was surprised he didn't end up with a point, but like you said that line is awful. He looked the most dangerous on the PP, the only one on that unit (besides Stright who had a bad game) who would actually try something with the puck.

As far as Hartnell, I don't remember any bad specific defensive gaffes but I clearly remember multiple great chances being ruined by Hartnell's inability. I believe one was off a Lecavalier feed. It wasn't his worst game, but taking that penalty on Hedman at the end pretty much killed any chance at a late game comeback (like that 2 goal swing we had against TB last time).

On that thought, this team continues to take far too many penalties. Most penalized team in the league, you'd think Berube's "accountability" would have started to address that by now. I imagine we'll get the same tired old cliches and no improvement when the PK starts to stumble.

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01-12-2014, 11:17 AM
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I don't think we watched the same game. Vinny was all over the ice, he made multiple very nice plays in the offensive zone. He also made a few very nice passes and actually contributed positively on multiple shifts in the defensive zone for what may be the first time at wing. I was surprised he didn't end up with a point, but like you said that line is awful. He looked the most dangerous on the PP, the only one on that unit (besides Stright who had a bad game) who would actually try something with the puck.

As far as Hartnell, I don't remember any bad specific defensive gaffes but I clearly remember multiple great chances being ruined by Hartnell's inability. I believe one was off a Lecavalier feed. It wasn't his worst game, but taking that penalty on Hedman at the end pretty much killed any chance at a late game comeback (like that 2 goal swing we had against TB last time).

On that thought, this team continues to take far too many penalties. Most penalized team in the league, you'd think Berube's "accountability" would have started to address that by now. I imagine we'll get the same tired old cliches and no improvement when the PK starts to stumble.
THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE ON HERE THAT ACTUALLY WATCHED THE GAME, instead of typing some dumb **** trying to make himself look "cool"

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01-12-2014, 11:39 AM
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I don't think we watched the same game. Vinny was all over the ice, he made multiple very nice plays in the offensive zone. He also made a few very nice passes and actually contributed positively on multiple shifts in the defensive zone for what may be the first time at wing. I was surprised he didn't end up with a point, but like you said that line is awful. He looked the most dangerous on the PP, the only one on that unit (besides Stright who had a bad game) who would actually try something with the puck.

As far as Hartnell, I don't remember any bad specific defensive gaffes but I clearly remember multiple great chances being ruined by Hartnell's inability. I believe one was off a Lecavalier feed. It wasn't his worst game, but taking that penalty on Hedman at the end pretty much killed any chance at a late game comeback (like that 2 goal swing we had against TB last time).

On that thought, this team continues to take far too many penalties. Most penalized team in the league, you'd think Berube's "accountability" would have started to address that by now. I imagine we'll get the same tired old cliches and no improvement when the PK starts to stumble.
I wasn't impressed with any of Vinnys play yesterday. He had a few shots but most, if not all, of them were slappers right to the logo. He didn't stand out to me at all and I certainly wouldn't say he was "all over the ice". He's been pretty bad for a while now, and even if yesterday wasn't as bad as the rest of his recent games, he should be playing better than inconsistent 3rd liner.

Like I said about Hartnell, he was neither good nor bad. Didn't make an impression on me at all, which is good in my eyes since prior to his current hot streak he'd been sticking out for all the wrong reasons. If he can be quiet and let Schenn and Simmonds keep up their current play then I'm satisfied with that. Basically, to me, Hartnell not horribly screwing up is a good game for him.

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01-12-2014, 11:41 AM
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THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE ON HERE THAT ACTUALLY WATCHED THE GAME, instead of typing some dumb **** trying to make himself look "cool"
You're not the only one that watched the game, you just don't know what you're seeing or what you're talking about. You should probably go try to contribute on Reddit, their amount of hockey knowledge, common sense, and maturity is more in line with yours.

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01-12-2014, 11:45 AM
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kelmitchell is a solid user.

he must have just recently bought a Lecavalier jersey or something

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01-12-2014, 11:57 AM
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I'm not looking to add any more fuel to this fire you guys got going here, but in my opinion, Vinny played fine yesterday. One of his better games since returning from injury. And I'd still like to see him on the first PP unit; as successful as it's been of late, Vinny's got a much better shot than Voracek's.

Also, the line of Downie/Couturier/Lecavalier was not good and is a rather odd line combination.

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It is just nuts how much we miss Read!

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It is just nuts how much we miss Read!
Yep, the perfect 3rd line player, very good defensively but he still has offensive skills. Also a great linemate for Couturier.

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You're not the only one that watched the game, you just don't know what you're seeing or what you're talking about. You should probably go try to contribute on Reddit, their amount of hockey knowledge, common sense, and maturity is more in line with yours.
Do we really need posts that offer nothing but personal insults? On our own board I mean. Main boards, I'm all for it. To hell with those savages!

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