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01-12-2014, 11:59 AM
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I know he was only mentioned once, but there is 0 % chance it is Erik Johnson. I know it isn't being noticed around Hfboards yet, but he is living up to his draft potential right now. He has been a monster for the Avs. You can strike his name off that list of players the Rangers should be interested in.

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01-12-2014, 12:01 PM
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If Stastny is a FA, and we have loads of space coming off the books, why should we trade for him?

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01-12-2014, 12:03 PM
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Also, what's with all the McGinn love. He's a pretty meh player. Doesn't add anything to the table. Don't we have enough players that can provide that to us already?

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01-12-2014, 12:30 PM
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If Stastny is a FA, and we have loads of space coming off the books, why should we trade for him?
This. I don't understand why anybody wants to trade for Stastny.

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01-12-2014, 12:36 PM
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01-12-2014, 12:47 PM
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This. I don't understand why anybody wants to trade for Stastny.
bc hes a top 6 center and someone we'd target via FA..

can help now and future.. excellent 2way center, add to the c depth and help push Stepan down add relief to him..

Stastsy+Barrie wouldn't be terrible depending on MDZ+ (maybe Brass)+ prospect

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01-12-2014, 01:09 PM
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Buying out Richards to replace him with Stastny would be a prototypical Rangers lateral move. Actually at best a lateral move.

Really highlights how poor center depth is in the organization.

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01-12-2014, 01:12 PM
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bc hes a top 6 center and someone we'd target via FA..

can help now and future.. excellent 2way center, add to the c depth and help push Stepan down add relief to him..

Stastsy+Barrie wouldn't be terrible depending on MDZ+ (maybe Brass)+ prospect

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or even

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Carcillo
Why would we spend assets on a player who doesn't fix the problem we have at center? Stastny is good defensively and can score kinda, but he's smallish and an awful skater. More of the same problems at center. And he's going on 29.

We need to take the assets we have, and sell smart. Make good moves for the future. Trading for Stastny is such a Rangers move. Lets get away from not's working, shall we?

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01-12-2014, 01:31 PM
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Don't know the COL system too well, but they aren't a team I would do business with simply because they've been a losing organization the last few years.

Taking assets from a losing org has some bleed over effect as the Rangers are seeing with the CLB contingency that's here. Would not want to repeat the scenario once again.

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01-12-2014, 01:45 PM
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Buying out Richards to replace him with Stastny would be a prototypical Rangers lateral move. Actually at best a lateral move.

Really highlights how poor center depth is in the organization.
Yup. Even more confusing if we send assets to get him before he's a FA too.

Confusing, but I wouldn't be surprised. Sather at his finest.

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01-12-2014, 02:01 PM
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Why would we spend assets on a player who doesn't fix the problem we have at center? Stastny is good defensively and can score kinda, but he's smallish and an awful skater. More of the same problems at center. And he's going on 29.

We need to take the assets we have, and sell smart. Make good moves for the future. Trading for Stastny is such a Rangers move. Lets get away from not's working, shall we?
yeah i hear ya..

what would you suggest in targeting..ROR? its hard to build a team without selling your own assets and building for now and the future.. Draft is imperative to have success but never easy and rolling the dice when drafting, especially since we haven't had a top 5 pick even top 10 picks in a number of years..

I personally wouldn't want to trade MDZ, I think hes young very talented and should be given a better chance to develop and needs to be coached up for confidence.. but typical ranger fashion as well as the organization, they want quick fixes and solutions.. all about the next player..

everyone wants to rebuild and get all these prospects and picks, but no NYR fan wants the growing pains that go along with it..

Dubi struggled we needed a scorer we trade him..

We want a 1c, we have a very nice young center in stepan but we give him **** bc hes not producing.. so we think the grass is greener elsewhere.. its always an on going process, no decision is easy..

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01-12-2014, 02:09 PM
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Siemens-Mcilrath pairing (insert drooling face here)

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01-12-2014, 02:13 PM
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Rather have DZ than Barrie. I'm starting to think it would be stupid to trade DZ because we wont get fair value.
If we got fair value for DZ we would be unhappy with the player we got.

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01-12-2014, 02:17 PM
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o rly?
4 Michael Del Zotto 6' 0" 195
44 Justin Falk 6' 5" 215
5 Dan Girardi 6' 1" 203
27 Ryan McDonagh 6' 1" 213
17 John Moore 6' 3" 202
18 Marc Staal "A" 6' 4" 207
6 Anton Stralman 5' 11" 190
Orr Nightmare is not really referring to size. He prefers big guys who fight to small guys who can skate. We all have different opinions on this stuff.

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01-12-2014, 02:28 PM
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Don't know the COL system too well, but they aren't a team I would do business with simply because they've been a losing organization the last few years.

Taking assets from a losing org has some bleed over effect as the Rangers are seeing with the CLB contingency that's here. Would not want to repeat the scenario once again.
really? the winner argument?

the worst argument in all of sports

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01-12-2014, 02:29 PM
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Siemens-Mcilrath pairing (insert drooling face here)
Hahaha Based on the way they play yeah for sure. But I worry that Siemens may be a Teubert in the sense that he might not develop physically to play that way in the pros.

Another instance of a kid not being able to put on muscle mass is Zach Hamill.

Be care of trading for pieces like this.

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01-12-2014, 03:45 PM
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Don't know the COL system too well, but they aren't a team I would do business with simply because they've been a losing organization the last few years.

Taking assets from a losing org has some bleed over effect as the Rangers are seeing with the CLB contingency that's here. Would not want to repeat the scenario once again.
They sure look like winners this season.

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o rly?
4 Michael Del Zotto 6' 0" 195
44 Justin Falk 6' 5" 215
5 Dan Girardi 6' 1" 203
27 Ryan McDonagh 6' 1" 213
17 John Moore 6' 3" 202
18 Marc Staal "A" 6' 4" 207
6 Anton Stralman 5' 11" 190
Stralman is definitely taller than that. I met the guy a couple of years ago and was about my height (I'm 186 cm). He's listed as 185cm at swehockey. That would be closer to 6'1 if I'm not out to lunch.

Edit: he's listed as 185 cm (61) on his own website. One would assume that is correct.

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They sure look like winners this season.
Yes with the core they built up and want to add to. To do that they are going to jettison the guys they don't want moving forward. Meaning they'll trade the scraps from their farm.

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Siemens-Mcilrath pairing (insert drooling face here)
Meanest #6/7 duo or top pairing AHL dmen in the league?

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Stralman is definitely taller than that. I met the guy a couple of years ago and was about my height (I'm 186 cm). He's listed as 185cm at swehockey. That would be closer to 6'1 if I'm not out to lunch.

Edit: he's listed as 185 cm (61) on his own website. One would assume that is correct.
No doubt about it. I've said it before, he's at least 6', if not 6'1". Watch him near players listed at 6', he's easily as tall if not taller.

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My problem with trading for Stastny is I don't think he'd solve the void at 1C. He is a good player though and could only help the team. He just wouldn't solve the problem we have

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Siemens-Mcilrath pairing (insert drooling face here)
if Siemens is in the Del Zotto to Avs deal if it happens, this would be like McDonagh all over again... get it done Sather.

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Stralman is one of the strongest Rangers, he is a workout freak. Keep what we have, they are melding nicely now and winning.

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The Avs haven't been scouting the Rangers at the home games. Maybe they have seen the Rangers on the road.

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