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01-12-2014, 01:36 AM
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Gretzky, Orr, Howe or Lemieux- Who revolutionized the game the most?

So who do you think it is?

I would say Orr.

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Orr. Come on.

edit: Gretzky was most responsible for the spread of its popularity though

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Would have to say Gretzky.

Literally everyone has heard of Wayne Gretzky.

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Would have to say Gretzky.

Literally everyone has heard of Wayne Gretzky.
I agree with u on Gretzky but hockey is not that big for everyone to know about him not even close.

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Would have to say Gretzky.

Literally everyone has heard of Wayne Gretzky.
except gretzky never revolutionized the game of hockey, he never changed the way hockey was played. he mastered the way the game was played, but there is nothing that he changed.

orr changed the way defensemen played the game, before him it was almost voodoo for a defensemen to jump up into the play or even rush the puck up the entire length of the rink.

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Definitely Orr

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Orr and Roy.

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So who do you think it is?

I would say Orr.
for me Mario did not revolutionize that game.
Gretz took things to the next level of seeing the ice
Howe was an all around player

as an oiler fan--I say Orr (and yes I am old enough to have seen him play)--while there were d-men who could skate prior to Orr--Orr could skate, score, hit and change the game like no other d-man before him)

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except gretzky never revolutionized the game of hockey, he never changed the way hockey was played. he mastered the way the game was played, but there is nothing that he changed.

orr changed the way defensemen played the game, before him it was almost voodoo for a defensemen to jump up into the play or even rush the puck up the entire length of the rink.
taboo lol

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taboo lol
Both work!

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Both work!
That's true I guess

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Orr for the on ice part of the revolution.

Gretzky for everything else.

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Bobby Orr

Gretzky is just the more popular name to non-hockey fans.

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Bobby Orr essentially changed the way that the entire game is played and approached. Gretzky was great....but I'm not so sure he revolutionized the game as much as Orr.

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doug harvey created the modern offensive defensman and orr perfected it

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The only person who legitimately played a run-and-gun style of defense after Bobby Orr was Paul Coffey.

If you really want to ask, "how did these players change the game of hockey," then the answer is probably that none of them did. They were just really, really, really, really, really good at it.

You want to know who changed the game? Tretiak/Roy and the butterfly style.

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Anyone who says Gretzky didn't change the game is out to lunch. He's the reason for both the coincidental minor 5-on-5 rule and the creation of the instigator rule.

Early in Gretzky's career, goaltenders were brutal. By the end of his career, goaltenders were some of the best athletes on the planet.

Early in Gretzky's career, "systems" were pretty trivial. By the end of his career, coaches were playing chess out there.

These are not coincidences.

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Orr and Roy are my answers.

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Bobby Orr and Patrick Roy are the two players with the greatest lasting legacies on the the way hockey is played today, IMO.

Edit: And I was beaten to it! Well done, hfboards, well done

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It's Bobby Orr and it's not close.

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They all did.

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I was able to create an entire presentation on Orr's impact on hockey.

I could not do that for the other 3.

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Orr changed the way the game was played.

Wayne is the reason the game is as big as it is today.

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Probably Roy. His exploits in the goaltending are still very much alive. Orr is the second, I guess.

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