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02-06-2014, 01:18 PM
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I hope we take some forwards with strong two way play in the later rounds, if we're drafting forwards there. I know we have guys like Laughton and Leier waiting in the wings, but it can't hurt to have more depth. It's been kind of ugly this year when one of our PKers goes down and we start relying on someone like VV or Rinaldo.

Not only that, if we're trying to put together a competent fourth line in a few years, it would be nice to have guys that can do more than just hit or fight.

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02-06-2014, 01:25 PM
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This may sound kind of weird but... does Raffl kind of make Leier expendable?

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This may sound kind of weird but... does Raffl kind of make Leier expendable?
Maybe, but it's really not even worth contemplating seriously until Leier is close to being ready for the pros. Raffl at 25 is 2? years from being eligible for unrestricted free agency depending on what we sign him to this offseason while Leier isn't seriously on the NHL radar until after next season (in the AHL) at the earliest.

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This may sound kind of weird but... does Raffl kind of make Leier expendable?
Probably, but it depends on how the organization sees these guys. I don't know if they see Raffl fitting in on a checking line with Couts/Read (which is the only place they haven't tried him yet, I think), in a scoring role, or just continuing to play on the 4th line and PK. All places where he hasn't looked out of place. Same goes for Leier, except we haven't actually seen him play in the pros yet, so who knows what we have with him.

It also can't hurt to have too many versatile players in the system, IMO.

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02-13-2014, 09:35 PM
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NHL.com mock drafts:

Hoffner - F Sonny Milano
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=704722&cmpid=nhl-fb
Morreale - D Anthony DeAngelo
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=704725&cmpid=nhl-fb
Kimelman - F Adrian Kempe
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=704724&cmpid=nhl-fb

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02-13-2014, 09:42 PM
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^ I haven't done much research yet but it looks like the draft is deep with wingers. Flyers could really use a high end wing to develop. I wanted Nichushskin last year.

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02-14-2014, 05:42 AM
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No Draisaitl in the top ten?

Surprised to see Ho-Sang so high as well... most places have him as a late first. He had a really nice week this week though!

Nylander has fell to the bottom or out of most of the other top tens I have seen as well. Though I do think he should go top ten... he is very talented. If he keeps playing the way he has been in the Allsvenskan he will go very high indeed.


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This may sound kind of weird but... does Raffl kind of make Leier expendable?
No such thing as making prospects expendable.

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His number? 48? What am I looking for here?

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No such thing as making prospects expendable.
Especially when Leier hasn't even turned pro yet. There's no such thing as having too many prospects. It's an excellent way of controlling costs in the cap era.

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02-14-2014, 09:19 AM
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Fluery is still the guy I go for. I think he has some big time potential regardless of where he plays. I honestly believe he can be as good or maybe even better than Ekblad when he is fully developed.

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His number? 48? What am I looking for here?
His twitter background has Giroux on it.

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His twitter background has Giroux on it.
Oh, I'm on my phone so I couldn't see it.

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I really really hope Kasperi Kapanen falls to us and we pick him.

But knowing this league, either another team with better Euro scouts will draft him higher than projected, or he'll actually fall to us like Maatta did but we won't draft him.

He'd be an excellent winger and we know what his father did for us. And he's a far more offensively gifted player than Sami

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Don't know anything about him only that he plays in Red Deer and Defense.. lol

I think we will hover around 10-14 tbh. Not a bad spot and I'm basing that on how we are playing under Chief. We make the playoffs (I believe) and in there anything can happen but I think we are missing key pieces to make a huge playoff run (hope I'm wrong b/c the draft isn't deep)

Edit: Nick Ritchie likes the ROCKY movies... plays LW... haha

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/jrh...202001449.html
He's got good size, can skate well and moves the puck well. IMO I think he would be Flyers top defensive prospect if they were able to snag him.

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He's got good size, can skate well and moves the puck well. IMO I think he would be Flyers top defensive prospect if they were able to snag him.
Samual Morin would still be our top D prospect. He has some really raw potential that if he puts it all together he will be a special special player.

If we drafted him I would go

Morin
Hagg
Fluery
Ghost(I am really high on Ghost too)

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02-14-2014, 10:23 AM
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Samual Morin would still be our top D prospect. He has some really raw potential that if he puts it all together he will be a special special player.
I like Fleury but I don't know if I like the idea of taking two really raw defensemen in back to back years. I think I would rather go with McKeown who's a little more advanced at this stage & still has some upside left.

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I think Fleury has more offensive flair than Morin, but I think Morin would be better at shutting down opponents than Fleury. The thing I like about Fleury is that he's decently sized, can move well and has a bit better offensive tools than Morin.

Personally though, I don't think we'll suck that much to get him. Still think we'll land McKeown or Milano.

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02-14-2014, 10:40 AM
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Samual Morin would still be our top D prospect. He has some really raw potential that if he puts it all together he will be a special special player.

If we drafted him I would go

Morin
Hagg
Fluery
Ghost(I am really high on Ghost too)
I would put Ghost, perhaps, a little further up due to his speed (which seems to be hard to match) and his defensive seasoning, which is getting a lot better. I'm suspect about Hagg's consistency, which is the problem with a lot of young dmen. I don't know about Fleury's consistency though because I don't watch him a lot. I just hope Morin can learn to take less penalties and put his tools together. Time will tell. I just put Fleury up their because he is a 2 way dman which Philly really needs and I believe has higher potential than Hagg (the other 2 way guy) but is still raw. If Morin can't reach that offensive upside he has than he will be a shutdown guy, which wouldn't be bad either but they need that 2 way guy.

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I like Fleury but I don't know if I like the idea of taking two really raw defensemen in back to back years. I think I would rather go with McKeown who's a little more advanced at this stage & still has some upside left.
The other thing to remember is the flyers could use some right handed defensemen. You should always choose the better player regardless, but in this situation Fluery would require a trade up while McKeown will probably be there.

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The reason I really like Fluery is because the kid can skate. There is no concerns with him skating and his mobility, so he should be able to be an NHL player regardless of his bust potential. Yes, he could always fall apart, but the main thing is these kids need to know how to skate. If he can skate the odds are greatly in his favor. He is responsible in his own zone too, while providing some nice offense.

I honestly don't think he is raw potential wise, we can see what he brings during the game. Size wise he is though, and he looks like he is 16. He is already big but needs to fill out some more. He is physical and has a decent shot as well. I don't think he is a "raw" prospect like Morin. Morin still has plenty room to grow, but Fluery has shown what he is capable of.

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I really really hope Kasperi Kapanen falls to us and we pick him.

But knowing this league, either another team with better Euro scouts will draft him higher than projected, or he'll actually fall to us like Maatta did but we won't draft him.

He'd be an excellent winger and we know what his father did for us. And he's a far more offensively gifted player than Sami
Kasperi just keeps growing as well... three-four inches and 25 pounds since he made his pro debut last year.

He is 6'0 and 185 now. Was 5'9 and 160 then.

He is good both ways, decent hands, insannnnnnnne skater (he does not skate... he hovers), great shot, hard worker etc... if he played for HIFK or Jokerit he would be a top 10 I reckon. That is just how it works seemingly!

He is one of those guys when I watch I cannot imagine busting... like I duno how he could. He may never be a 1st liner; but he is going to be an NHLer I'm sure. Those wheels...

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