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01-13-2014, 01:17 PM
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Murray is referring to players like Wiercioch, Hoffman and Dacosta, stone, pageau not zibanejad, lazar, ceci, lehner.

Also budget is less of an issue for this year as half if not more of the salaries have been paid.

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01-13-2014, 01:19 PM
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This 'They Must Win Now' call is a season premature. Spezza's, Anderson's and Ryan's deals are up at the end of NEXT season.

And nobody on the team is having a season to even justify a 'we gotta go for it NOW!' feeling anyway.

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Did anyone else unintentionally read that whole thing in Bryan Murray's voice?

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[QUOTE=Benny FTW;77927879]Not really. Murray refused to trade Zibby for Ryan and the Ducks were asking.

Zibby is untouchable. He's been absolutely dominant over the last 2 weeks since he was given his own line. Spezza is behind Zibby.

Exactly. Zib is valued much much higher than Silfverberg was. Literally every sens forward besides ryan and turris is considered less important for the sens future.

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This 'They Must Win Now' call is a season premature. Spezza's, Anderson's and Ryan's deals are up at the end of NEXT season.
They gave up quite a few assets to aquire a player to win now in the off season.

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01-13-2014, 01:23 PM
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For some reason I always see Rick Nash as a good fit for the sens, would something around these two teams work?

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Jared Cowen in that group?

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01-13-2014, 01:24 PM
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Mike Cammalerri(50% Salary retained) + Lee Stempniak for Mikado Zibinajab( or however you spell his name). Solves your problem at first line LW and third line RW.

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01-13-2014, 01:25 PM
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Jared Cowen in that group?
Probably not. His game has come around since the beginning of the season. He has been playing upwards of 25 minutes a game lately.

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Murray is referring to players like Wiercioch, Hoffman and Dacosta, stone, pageau not zibanejad, lazar, ceci, lehner.

Also budget is less of an issue for this year as half if not more of the salaries have been paid.
Yeah, there are a few players that are close to NHL ready or ready in Binghamton like Hoffman, Dacosta, Wideman that could be a good addition to a rebuilding team. See:

http://theahl.com/stats/statdisplay....ournament_id=0

I don't think Murray is looking to make a blockbuster trade here.

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They gave up quite a few assets to aquire a player to win now in the off season.
If 'now' includes next season, then sure. This season they haven't been good enough for Murray to think they're close.

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Cody Ceci and Curtis Lazar to Buffalo, wrapped in a pretty bow please.
Let me guess. 2014 1st, Girgensons ,Ristolainen, Zadorov and Myers are all off the table?

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....what? This can't be for real... the Sens are no where near contenders. They have guys like Greening playing in the top 6 still
Hence BM trying to make some moves for better players... Did you miss the point? I think you missed the point.

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For some reason I always see Rick Nash as a good fit for the sens, would something around these two teams work?
Didnt nash refuse a trade to ottawa?

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Didnt nash refuse a trade to ottawa?
I'm pretty sure it was reported that he refused to waive his NTC for Ottawa.

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Lol. The one name he mentions that will not be traded (lazar) somehow makes most people reply with proposals including him. Eesh

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Not really. Murray refused to trade Zibby for Ryan and the Ducks were asking.

Zibby is untouchable. He's been absolutely dominant over the last 2 weeks since he was given his own line. Spezza is behind Zibby.



No...
If Zibby was untouchable he would have been named along with Lazar.. The other 'young guys" wont be fetching much in return.. If a legit star is available OTT puts Zibby in play IMO... Nash+ for Zib+

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Lol. The one name he mentions that will not be traded (lazar) somehow makes most people reply with proposals including him. Eesh
Dont blame people for wanting him.

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If Zibby was untouchable he would have been named along with Lazar.. The other 'young guys" wont be fetching much in return.. If a legit star is available OTT puts Zibby in play IMO... Nash+ for Zib+
Did you read my post? Murray said he wouldn't trade Zibanejad for Bobby Ryan.

Zibanejad is going to be a star.

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Jared Cowen in that group?
I'm in the minority that believes that he is; for the right price of course.

What do you have in mind?

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If you guys want a top 6 winger you are going to have to give up something to get him. A B level prospect won't do it and you don't have your 1st round pick this year. I know that you guys are going to not like this deal but Yak on Spezza's wing would look really good and he is really young. But he is not going to be given away, no matter what other fans think this kid does not have an attitude problem and plays hard. His defensive game has been a lot better tha last 7 games. I would want back Zib plus though, and just not a low level prospect and a draft pick.

Gagner on this wing would also be very good for you guys but again you guys think he is garbage but he is not, he is not a centreman but would do good on the wing with Spezza.
lol, not giving away Zibby for your troublesome Yak. You can keep that headache.

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Murray is referring to players like Wiercioch, Hoffman and Dacosta, stone, pageau not zibanejad, lazar, ceci, lehner.

Also budget is less of an issue for this year as half if not more of the salaries have been paid.
What would Ottawa need for Weirioch?
I don't see many takers for players like Hoffman, Wideman and Da Costa(IMO they are small career AHL'ers which every team has an abundance of) Pageau is borderline

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