HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Notices

Semi-Annual Prospect Poll: #12 NYR Prospect

View Poll Results: Who's our 12th prospect?
C Michael St. Croix 2 4.26%
C Adam Tambellini 0 0%
RW Michael Kantor 0 0%
C Cristoval Nieves 37 78.72%
LW Andrew Yogan 0 0%
LW Marek Hrivik 8 17.02%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-14-2014, 01:16 AM
  #1
Beacon
Sent to HF Minors
 
Beacon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 8,010
vCash: 500
Semi-Annual Prospect Poll: #12 NYR Prospect

LW Pavel Buchnevich easily won this round with 93% of the vote. RW Michael Kantor replaces him in the poll.


Please write who you want added to the poll, and give a reason for it. This makes the discussion here more lively.


WHO IS A PROSPECT: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/whatmakesaprospect

HOW TO RANK PROSPECTS: Based on their value in a hypothetical trade or waiver draft. This takes into consideration a prospect's ceiling, how close he's to making it, his health, work ethic, the whole deal. Imagine there was a prospect waiver draft and you could keep only one prospect. That guy is our #1 prospect. Then imagine we had one more waiver protection. That guy is our #2 prospect.


TOP PROSPECTS

1. LW Chris Kreider
2. C J.T. Miller
3. D Dylan McIlrath
4. G Cameron Talbot
5. D Brady Skjei


SECOND TIER

6. C Oscar Lindberg
7. RW Danny Kristo
8. RW Jesper Fast
9. D Conor Allen
10. LW Anthony Duclair


PROJECTS

11. LW Pavel Buchnevich


Pavel Buchnevich
Left Wing
Born Apr 17 1995 -- Cherepovets, Russia
Height 6.01 -- Weight 161 [185 cm/73 kg]

2013-14 Cherepovets Severstal KHL 31GP 6-6-12 8PIM




PROSPECTS ELIGIBLE TO BE ADDED

Andersson, Calle
Beach, Kyle
Bourque, Ryan
Donnay, Troy
Fogarty, Steven
Graves, Ryan
Hughes, Tommy
Jean, Kyle
Missiaen, Jason
Nicholls, Josh
Noreau, Samuel
Skapski, Mackenzie
Spelling, Thomas
Stajcer, Scott
Wilson, Jason

Beacon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 01:19 AM
  #2
Beacon
Sent to HF Minors
 
Beacon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 8,010
vCash: 500
Close call between Hrivik and Nieves, but decided to go with Hrivik because he's more of a sure thing to make the NHL.

Add Graves, a recent 4th round draft pick who's having a good season.

Beacon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 02:40 AM
  #3
TheRightWay
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,501
vCash: 505
Add Andersson

TheRightWay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 02:48 AM
  #4
SoftEuro4thLiner
Registered User
 
SoftEuro4thLiner's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Country: Austria
Posts: 2,404
vCash: 50
Boo! If he can bulk up a little we have a very good prospect on our hands.

Add, umm... does it even matter at this point? Andersson I guess.

SoftEuro4thLiner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 04:45 AM
  #5
Net Front Presence
Harvester of Sorrow
 
Net Front Presence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Country: United States
Posts: 5,864
vCash: 12500
Hrivik. Add Andersson.

Net Front Presence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 05:49 AM
  #6
Rangers Fail
4 8 15 16 23 42
 
Rangers Fail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 17,487
vCash: 500
Hrivik, add Andersson.

Doesn't Kantor have 0 points?

Rangers Fail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 06:26 AM
  #7
nyr2k2
Can't Beat Him
 
nyr2k2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Country: United States
Posts: 22,734
vCash: 500
Awards:
Nieves. Add Skapski.

__________________

It's just pain.
nyr2k2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 06:33 AM
  #8
Revelation
Reanimated
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Dirty South
Country: United States
Posts: 1,746
vCash: 500
Nieves. He seems to be struggling under increased pressure and responsibility this year, but that doesn't erase what he did as a freshman. We all knew he would be a 3 or 4 year college player when he was drafted. There's still time to right the ship.

Add Andersson.

Revelation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 06:35 AM
  #9
nyr2k2
Can't Beat Him
 
nyr2k2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Country: United States
Posts: 22,734
vCash: 500
Awards:
Also, while he's probably not going to get any votes in this round, it's still worth mentioning Yogan's play. He's been a big disappointment for me this year. After a strong second half last season, I was really looking for him to take another step forward this year, or at least pick up where he left off. He's been a healthy scratch on numerous occasions this season, which is bad news for his status as a prospect. Hartford is terrible, and he can't cement a spot over a guy like Shawn O'Donnell?

He's still effective on the forecheck, and he moves around fine for a bigger guy, but that's really it. He doesn't contribute much of anything else. This has been such an abomination of a season for the Wolf Pack, so I won't write anyone off completely. Still, Yogan has been a big a letdown for me.

nyr2k2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 06:37 AM
  #10
TheRightWay
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,501
vCash: 505
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyr2k2 View Post
Also, while he's probably not going to get any votes in this round, it's still worth mentioning Yogan's play. He's been a big disappointment for me this year. After a strong second half last season, I was really looking for him to take another step forward this year, or at least pick up where he left off. He's been a healthy scratch on numerous occasions this season, which is bad news for his status as a prospect. Hartford is terrible, and he can't cement a spot over a guy like Shawn O'Donnell?

He's still effective on the forecheck, and he moves around fine for a bigger guy, but that's really it. He doesn't contribute much of anything else. This has been such an abomination of a season for the Wolf Pack, so I won't write anyone off completely. Still, Yogan has been a big a letdown for me.
Along similar lines, why is Marek Hrivik getting votes right now? He has 12 points as a 22 year old in the AHL while getting top PP minutes. I've never understood the love affair with Hrivik.

TheRightWay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 06:50 AM
  #11
nyr2k2
Can't Beat Him
 
nyr2k2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Country: United States
Posts: 22,734
vCash: 500
Awards:
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRightWay View Post
Along similar lines, why is Marek Hrivik getting votes right now? He has 12 points as a 22 year old in the AHL while getting top PP minutes. I've never understood the love affair with Hrivik.
His skill set is still attractive, and like Yogan, I think people are giving him the benefit of the doubt that his performance has been depressed due to an overall ****** situation in Hartford. I wouldn't vote for him (nor Yogan), but they were both effective guys last season.

nyr2k2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 06:52 AM
  #12
Revelation
Reanimated
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Dirty South
Country: United States
Posts: 1,746
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRightWay View Post
Along similar lines, why is Marek Hrivik getting votes right now? He has 12 points as a 22 year old in the AHL while getting top PP minutes. I've never understood the love affair with Hrivik.
I think he "looked the part" during preseason, and people remember that. I think he has a decent shot at becoming a mediocre 3rd liner. Whether you take that over a guy like Nieves, whose upside is higher, but has a much lower chance of reaching it, is up to personal preference I suppose.

Revelation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 06:57 AM
  #13
UAGoalieGuy
Registered User
 
UAGoalieGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Long Island,New York
Country: United States
Posts: 8,657
vCash: 500
Boo. Add Graves, who is having a good year but doesn't get a lot of attention on here because he doesn't put up points.

UAGoalieGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 06:59 AM
  #14
eco's bones
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Elmira NY
Country: United States
Posts: 12,261
vCash: 500
Nieves has a pretty decent chance of being an NHL'er. After that we've got a bunch of longshots IMO.

eco's bones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 07:37 AM
  #15
nyr2k2
Can't Beat Him
 
nyr2k2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Country: United States
Posts: 22,734
vCash: 500
Awards:
I think Skapski is being undersold a bit. He's having a good year behind a mediocre-at-best Kootenay squad. He's looked solid the few times I saw him, and is coming off a December where he posted a .929 SV% in nine games while facing 35 shots per game. He has a chance for a Cam Talbot-like progression through the system.

There's a really good chance that both Missiaen and Stajcer are gone after this season, at which point the door is open for Skapski to earn a contract and a role in Hartford.

nyr2k2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 07:44 AM
  #16
Revelation
Reanimated
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Dirty South
Country: United States
Posts: 1,746
vCash: 500
Eh, it seems difficult to project goalies from junior numbers. Skapski also has a rep for being inconsistent, which further muddies the water. Is he on a hot streak, or is this genuine development? I put goalies on the shelf until they show me something at the professional level.

Revelation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 07:53 AM
  #17
EuroFlair
Nash 40g in 2014-15
 
EuroFlair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: west coast
Country: Sweden
Posts: 1,994
vCash: 50
Nieves easily.

EuroFlair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 08:42 AM
  #18
Radek27
Registered User
 
Radek27's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 5,143
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Radek27
Looks like another landslide this round, add Graves

Radek27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 09:42 AM
  #19
kovazub94
Registered User
 
kovazub94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 742
vCash: 500
add Graves

kovazub94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 12:30 PM
  #20
Mats Zuccarelli
NY Hockey Rangers
 
Mats Zuccarelli's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Manhattan
Country: United States
Posts: 1,630
vCash: 500
Booboo, add Fogarty

Mats Zuccarelli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 01:12 PM
  #21
BrooklynRangersFan
Change is good.
 
BrooklynRangersFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn of course
Country: United States
Posts: 10,089
vCash: 500
Got to go with Nieves on the basis of last season - he showed fantastic potential as a Freshman, even if he is having a down year this season.

I'm a bit wary of Skapski as Stajcer also had his good months and you just never know how these up-and-down goalies are going to pan out until you've seen them get a couple of years of professional hockey. I'd like to add Andersson given the game he brings and the organizational need, but he's playing for a division B team, no? That's hardly encouraging.

So, that leaves me with Graves who by all accounts has been having an excellent season and was named to the Super Series team with the likes of Fucale and Drouin and our own Duclair.

BrooklynRangersFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 01:12 PM
  #22
E-Train
Registered User
 
E-Train's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Long Island
Posts: 1,255
vCash: 500
Nieves. Add Graves.

E-Train is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 01:20 PM
  #23
Revelation
Reanimated
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Dirty South
Country: United States
Posts: 1,746
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrooklynRangersFan View Post
Got to go with Nieves on the basis of last season - he showed fantastic potential as a Freshman, even if he is having a down year this season.

I'm a bit wary of Skapski as Stajcer also had his good months and you just never know how these up-and-down goalies are going to pan out until you've seen them get a couple of years of professional hockey. I'd like to add Andersson given the game he brings and the organizational need, but he's playing for a division B team, no? That's hardly encouraging.

So, that leaves me with Graves who by all accounts has been having an excellent season and was named to the Super Series team with the likes of Fucale and Drouin and our own Duclair.
I could be mistaken, but I thought Hockey Allsvenskan (HA) was only about half a step below the SEL. They have a tournament every year with the two worst teams in the SEL, and the top four teams from HA, with the top 2 teams from that tournament taking 2 spots in the SEL. Anyhow, I think the SEL and HA are alot closer in terms of level of competition than many people think.

Edit: Yeah, it's called the Kvalserien.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvalserien

Revelation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 01:24 PM
  #24
Beacon
Sent to HF Minors
 
Beacon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 8,010
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyr2k2 View Post
His skill set is still attractive, and like Yogan, I think people are giving him the benefit of the doubt that his performance has been depressed due to an overall ****** situation in Hartford. I wouldn't vote for him (nor Yogan), but they were both effective guys last season.

This.

Every player in Hartford is not living up to expectations.

Miller should've shady progressed to the NHL.

Lindberg or Fast should've been in the NHL or very good top-6 AHLers. They are marginal top-6ers.

Yogan should've behind a quality AHL prospect.

Hrivik should've been an AHL first liner, but nowhere near that thus year.

Kristo should've been close to a ppg player considering his age and style of play.

When one player has a bad season, it's his fault. When it's the whole team, particularly its creative players, the coaching needs to take the fault.


Last edited by Beacon: 01-14-2014 at 01:29 PM.
Beacon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-14-2014, 02:22 PM
  #25
TheRightWay
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,501
vCash: 505
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
This.

Every player in Hartford is not living up to expectations.

Miller should've shady progressed to the NHL.

Lindberg or Fast should've been in the NHL or very good top-6 AHLers. They are marginal top-6ers.

Yogan should've behind a quality AHL prospect.

Hrivik should've been an AHL first liner, but nowhere near that thus year.

Kristo should've been close to a ppg player considering his age and style of play.

When one player has a bad season, it's his fault. When it's the whole team, particularly its creative players, the coaching needs to take the fault.
Those are a whole lot of "should've's" that are hardly based in objectivity. If anyone was 100% expecting a 20 year old to progress to the NHL or two young guys from Sweden to come to a brand new continent with a totally different rink size and playing style and not miss a beat then that's their problem. Not Gernander's problem or the players' problems. Sure, if you want to attribute a bad Hartford team to a general statistical deflation then be my guest. That still does not explain why Hrivik has fewer goals than Ryan Bourque and Darroll Powe despite playing more offensive minutes.

TheRightWay is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:50 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.