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01-14-2014, 01:09 PM
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Markov signing discussions

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=441151

Obviously wants to stay and is conducting his own negotiations.

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I like the odds when he's representing himself. Bold move, he seems to know what he wants. I think we can draw optimism from that.

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I like the odds when he's representing himself. Bold move, he seems to know what he wants. I think we can draw optimism from that.
Good point. I doubt he would be representing himself if he were looking to test the waters in July, considering he has never hit free agency once in his career.

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“Maybe I'm going to sign another contract tomorrow. Maybe in another month. We'll see,” he told The Gazette. “I'd like to stay here for the rest of my career. You can see some players in their 40s who still play. I don't want to think that far. Whatever is going to happen tomorrow will happen tomorrow.”
A Haley's comet type comment. I wish we'd see it more often. Hopefully we get a deal done soon so we can dispose of other pending issues more swiftly.


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Bold move indeed, but he might accept a hometown discount to stay here. His agent likely would have disagreed.

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I like the odds when he's representing himself. Bold move, he seems to know what he wants. I think we can draw optimism from that.
Personally I have a ton of respect for players who do this. Not a fan of agents at all.

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A Haley's comet type comment. I wish we'd see it more often. Hopefully we get a deal done soon so we can deal with other pending issues more swiftly.
What's that expression means? I never heard it before

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What's that expression means? I never heard it before
It's a comment that doesn't come around very often (once every 80 years for Haley's comet iirc.).

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If we can get Markov for a fair price I'm Sure it will help in the PK negotiations.

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I'm definitely not super keen on a long term deal for Markov at this point. A 2 year deal would be ideal.

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01-14-2014, 01:26 PM
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What's that expression means? I never heard it before
Exaggeration about how rarely we see a player say he wants to end his career with the Habs. Just like Haley's comet, which only appears periodically.

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2-3 years at anything close to his current cap hit is a no brainer. Would cost 6.5 mil to replace him.

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01-14-2014, 01:32 PM
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Markov better stay here until his retirement.

General Markov is still in shape to play for several years.

4m seems decent.
We will see.

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01-14-2014, 01:35 PM
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Markov's will look to finish his career in Montreal. He always strikes as a routine-type of person, looking to avoid changes. Given his age and injuries, he may look for job security more than money. Without an agent, I'd say that the possibility of having a win-win situation is greater.

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01-14-2014, 01:36 PM
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2-3 years at anything close to his current cap hit is a no brainer. Would cost 6.5 mil to replace him.
Would cost Galchenyuk or Gallagher to replace him. There are no UFA's even close to Markov's level.

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Hopefully the term isn't longer than 2 years.

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01-14-2014, 01:40 PM
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Is it possible to sign somebody as a player for x years and then guarantee an office/coach job for x years?

I think he should stay with us when he retires. I think he would make a good technical advisor or something. No cap on staff expenses, so we can keep him.

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01-14-2014, 01:40 PM
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Simple negotiations here...no agent necessary.

Montreal gives him a long term deal to retire....or the Washington Capitals will.....

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Simple negotiations here...no agent necessary.

Montreal gives him a long term deal to retire....or the Washington Capitals will.....
You mean Detroit lol

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Personally I have a ton of respect for players who do this. Not a fan of agents at all.
Neither am I. The agent works for himself, not the player. Since they take a very small percentage of the money, they do all they can to drive up the AAV.

Now, it seems nice, as a player, to have the maximum possible amount of money, but I beg to differ.

Scenario #1: You make 8-9M a year for 10 years, but you have to play with average linemates (or D partner).

Scenario #2: You make 6M a year for 10 years, and the team can afford to spend an extra 2-3M to get you a better linemate (or D partner).

It takes only 2 or 3 guys on a team to agree to go for #2 and boom! The team can spend an extra 6, 7, 8M to get quality players for supporting roles.

I'd rather earn 60M on a perennial contender than 80M on a bubble team.

Now, before you bring me the phony argument that I, myself, would take the job that pays more: it's not the same. The difference between 60K and 80K is huge, because you actually spend the extra money on something relevant. The difference between 60M and 80M is... 20M sitting in your bank account (yay!). If you think you really need that extra 20M, then you have a problem.

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I want it to be 2 years but I'm guessing we will have to make it 3, probably at a similar price tag but maybe a little higher.

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01-14-2014, 01:53 PM
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I have a feeling Markov will sign a discount contract in an attempt to win a cup as a Hab.

The fact that he wants to retire here and fired his agent in order to negotiate his own contract leads me to believe he's looking for 3-4 years with a cap hit around $4m.

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01-14-2014, 01:55 PM
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I'm with Shawn Campbell from TSN on this one. There is no way Markov signs for something like $4M. In free agency, he gets at least 3 years, likely 4 at 6M per year.

If he's looking to finish his career and is more interested in term, we may see something like $6M, 6M 5M, 4M, 4M. Cap hit $5M. He is 100% worth it. Would cost $6.5 to replace him.

Don't undervalue Markov.

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01-14-2014, 01:57 PM
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I have a feeling Markov will sign a discount contract in an attempt to win a cup as a Hab.

The fact that he wants to retire here and fired his agent in order to negotiate his own contract leads me to believe he's looking for 3-4 years with a cap hit around $4m.
I think he'll give the Habs a home town discount...but not at 60 cents on the dollar, that's a bit much.

Those are all below market value and good for both sides. He can get 500k at least more/year on each of those.

4 years 22 mil(6.25-6-5.25-4.5)
3 years 17.25 mil
2 years 12 mil

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Anything from 2-3 years and between $4.5M-$5.75M IMO is a great deal that will continue to help us. (Even a little higher in the money wouldn't be too bad)

As he's already 35 we can't risk adding more years but a deal around those terms will allow us to keep The General while he helps us build a contender.

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