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08-05-2005, 02:13 AM
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Yeah, I see Nieminen on the 3rd line. Ward would probably be a 4th liner. I don't see Lundmark fitting into the top two lines unless he played wing and we all know that he should play at his natural position (center). Straka will center the first line and Nylander the 2nd line. Lundmark could fit in on the wing on the 2nd line but if they want to keep him at center, he'll be a 3rd liner.

Sucks to be Lundmark at this time...he probably won't play with anybody this season who could help create scoring opportunities. Possibly Nieminen but not as much as Jagr or Nylander.
Both Straka and Nylander can play the wing.

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I disagree, Lundmark will be the second line center. Straka has been a left winger almost exclusively for the last couple of seasons.

I see him with Nylander and Jagr on the first and someone - Lundmark- Balej on the second.

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08-05-2005, 03:08 AM
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Totally forgot that Straka/Nylander could play wing. The lines could be:

1st Line: Straka-Nylander-Jagr

2nd Line: Rucinsky-Lundmark-Balej

Rucinsky could definitely generate some offense with Lundmark and Balej.

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08-05-2005, 03:15 AM
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I'd like to see more balanced top two lines (assuming Straka is in his superb form)


Rucinsky - Nylander - Jágr
Straka - Lundmark - Balej

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Didn't play Lundmark his best games as a LW?

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08-05-2005, 05:12 AM
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how about

Lundmark - Straka - Jagr
Rucinsky - Nylander - Belaj

a bit more even considering that neither Lundmark or Belaj have show that they are capable of putting points on the board, why put them in such a position that limits their ability to produce by placing them together.

I'd love to see a breakout year from both players, I'm just concerned that we are going to be waiting for a while on both players.

But if I had to choose the one player I could see making more of an impact out of Belaj and Lundmark, I'd have to say Belaj. I think that his preference is the shoot the puck and if he get's the right center (nylander maybe) I could see him lighting the lamp more often this year.

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Lundmark - Straka - Jagr
Rucinsky - Nylander - Belaj

a bit more even considering that neither Lundmark or Belaj have show that they are capable of putting points on the board, why put them in such a position that limits their ability to produce by placing them together.

I'd love to see a breakout year from both players, I'm just concerned that we are going to be waiting for a while on both players.

But if I had to choose the one player I could see making more of an impact out of Belaj and Lundmark, I'd have to say Belaj. I think that his preference is the shoot the puck and if he get's the right center (nylander maybe) I could see him lighting the lamp more often this year.
Straka hasn't played center for a very long while, except on the czech national team... He's not the best faceoff man, and if Lundmark is on Jágr's line, I'd like to see him as the centre, as Jágr strives with a righty shot center, like Robert Lang and Mario.

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08-05-2005, 06:28 AM
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I think that our first line will be Rucinsky - Straka - Jagr. If I remember it correctly they played quite much together in 2005 world championships and well I might add...

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This was an idiotic signing and putting together a vet first line is. That isn't how you rebuild and develop kids.


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The Rangers also signed 26-year-old forward Jason Ward to a two-year deal worth $1.275 million
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...ATE=sports.htm

Ward more than likely signed a two way deal

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I'm still hoping..

that Lundmark plays the off-wing. The only NHL success he's had was at that position. He's not a very good center. He really doesn't have great playmaking skills. He's best used on the left side.

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The Perfect Ranger

Smart of NYR to sign Ville Nieminen. He is the perfect Ranger - lazy and unmotivated.

Honestly, how anyone could want this guy on his team is a complete mystery.

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Hasanen...

I'm not sure how safe that is, but then again, who knows. Straka to me is a left winger, not a center. But with Sather, he was likely acquired to be a center (just as Kovalev was misused as a left winger instead of his comfortable right; something to which he never adjusted and his results showed).

If Renney doesn't spread the vets, and spread the ice time, then as usual, this organzition will go nowhere with Sather at the helm.

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Smart of NYR to sign Ville Nieminen. He is the perfect Ranger - lazy and unmotivated.

Honestly, how anyone could want this guy on his team is a complete mystery.
are we talking about the same nieminen?

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Smart of NYR to sign Ville Nieminen. He is the perfect Ranger - lazy and unmotivated.

Honestly, how anyone could want this guy on his team is a complete mystery.
Go away troll

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Ville Nieminen signed a two year deal for $1.4 million/$700,000 per

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The same with Niemo (Ville Nieminen, who signed a two-year, $1.4-million deal with the New York Rangers
http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgar...9df85fb&page=2

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Former Flame Ville Nieminen signed a two-year deal with the New York Rangers worth $700,00 per season
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Calgar...60338-sun.html

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Lundmark - Straka - Jagr
Rucinsky - Nylander - Balej
If you want balance that is the way to go IMO as well. Give Lundmark one more shot and see what Balej can do with a playmaking center and a talented winger who can get him the puck and convert some of his passes as well.

However, they will really have to fight the urge hard to put Rucinsky-Straka-Jagr all on one line.

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08-05-2005, 09:02 AM
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Didn't see your post, PLD...

ideally, those are the lines that should go. It's good balance and gives a couple guys who have tasted the NHL another shot to succeed. Problem is that it short-changes the rest of the line and hurts guys like Moore and Giroux, who at his point should be given the same shot as Balej and Lundmark given their respective play on the same team last season. Further, ideally you'd have Rucinsky on a third line (perhaps giving Giroux a shot at the top six). I think camp and the preseason will tell a lot. It's tough right now.

And Nieminen is not lazy and unmotivated....he just lacks talent.

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Nieminen is guess I can live with but Ward? Why? Seems to me like that spot can be filled internally. Are we back to kids wasting away on the fourth line?
This signing has got that Josh Green feel to it, doesn't it?

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This signing has got that Josh Green feel to it, doesn't it?
Yeah now that you mention it. I just have to believe there was someone in house that can do what Ward can. Giroux or Murray?

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$700,000 is a bargain for a checking line pest like Nieminen... terrific signing.

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Ward more than likely signed a two way deal

The Post article said its a one way deal.

But damn...Ville for 700k? Ward for 600K? Great signings Sather.

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How about...

Hollweg, Signin'. Or as I mentioned, there's even Ortmeyer. I'm not going to get worked-up over Ward, unless Sather's pulling an Al Davis and acquiring a guy b/c he was a #1 pick and believes he can be on the top two lines. Other than that, his job isn't real safe.

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ideally, those are the lines that should go. It's good balance and gives a couple guys who have tasted the NHL another shot to succeed. Problem is that it short-changes the rest of the line and hurts guys like Moore and Giroux, who at his point should be given the same shot as Balej and Lundmark given their respective play on the same team last season. Further, ideally you'd have Rucinsky on a third line (perhaps giving Giroux a shot at the top six). I think camp and the preseason will tell a lot. It's tough right now.

And Nieminen is not lazy and unmotivated....he just lacks talent.

I was thinking about Giroux or even Ward on the top line, actually I think that a big body like either of those 2 would be more beneficial, but I took into consideration the skating factor that Straka has as well as Jagr and felt that a better skater in Lundmark would fit better.

I think that on the 2nd line either Giroux or Ward would fit nicely with Nylander and Balej and have Rucinsky and Ville man the 3rd line

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