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Even though they took on a lot of salary in Roenick and Demitra, with more to come apparently, the Kings may still be looking if they're not entirely happy with Cechmanek.
Cechmanek is an UFA - no longer in the Kings plans. They have committed to Garon as their #1 with Labarbera (sp?) as the #2. They still may be interested in Thibault at that price.
Thibault is a legite #1 costing only $2.3 for 1 year. At that price he has trade value to teams that aren't set with a #1 goalie (possibly Detroit, Pitt, LA, Boston - if they can't agree to terms with Raycroft). I expect he'll command a 2-3 round pick (conditional on his play ie. number of games).
roman is a UFA...tbo would be very attractive in a kings uni. not sold on garon yet.
I'm with J. I'd wouldn't mind having Tbo. Though, part of me thinks we're setting ourselves up for disaster again this year with some of the injury prone players we've added, and TBo will just be another one...
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Chicago not desperate to move him? True, they are not in cap hell like the Flyers were (are), but on the other hand that is about $10 m. being paid for goalie now. About a third of your most likely final cap position. That seems like desperate to me especially when there are very few teams out there in the market for a starting goalie and what does he make? $3 m. a year? Who in a Cap environment is going to give that to a backup? You may have 2 or 3 teams even remotely interested. Do not expect too much back. You may not have to give up a 3rd to get someone to take him but you may be disappointed in what you in the end do get.
Agreed. I'd love a second rounder for him, but everyone knows we need to get rid of him, so the price isn't going to be high, unless the other team is in need of a goalie. Tampa Bay???
Agreed. I'd love a second rounder for him, but everyone knows we need to get rid of him, so the price isn't going to be high, unless the other team is in need of a goalie. Tampa Bay???
I think TB is happy with John Graham, I think Tampa will just sign a backup goalie and keep St Louis and Vinny now.
Chicago not desperate to move him? True, they are not in cap hell like the Flyers were (are), but on the other hand that is about $10 m. being paid for goalie now. About a third of your most likely final cap position. That seems like desperate to me especially when there are very few teams out there in the market for a starting goalie and what does he make? $3 m. a year? Who in a Cap environment is going to give that to a backup? You may have 2 or 3 teams even remotely interested. Do not expect too much back. You may not have to give up a 3rd to get someone to take him but you may be disappointed in what you in the end do get.
Add to that, there are still a few UFA goalies out there that are still around like Cujo, Osgood, Cechmanek, Burke etc. That are comparable and would only cost $$$.
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Under the old CBA Thibeault might have been able to nab a late 2nd or 3rd rounder to a team desperate for a starting goalie if he had been healthy, but coming off of a year where he played 14 games and inan NHL where the Flyers had to give up a pick to get rid of Roenick? If the Hawks get anything at all for Tbo I think they'll jump on it, even a third tier prospect... anything, as long as it's cheap.
Tbay oddly enough seems like the best fit, though that might be an uncomfortable negotiation to get through!
With Cechmanek, CuJo and Dunham still available, TBo's trade value is not much. Maybe a 3rd round or lower pick. CHI would probably be better off waiting to move him after the market clears a little.
With Cechmanek, CuJo and Dunham still available, TBo's trade value is not much. Maybe a 3rd round or lower pick. CHI would probably be better off waiting to move him after the market clears a little.
I totally disagree. Chicago would not have to pay anymore than a 4th to move him.
Like I said, I don't think we will get a huge prize, but none of things you guys are saying make sense. Cujo, Checkmanek are UFAs and will go for a lot more $ than TBO. Aside from CHeckmanek these UFAs are practically a decade older. Why are you guys trying to make these weak metaphors. I think TBO is easily as good as these UFAs plus he will cost half as much and he is half the age. Those are the facts and those make the value. I would expect a decent prospect, or a 2-3 round pck. Although, maybe a package deal can get us more from a team in cap trouble. TBO is cheap for a #1 in his prime.
I like the M.Johnson for Thibault straight up idea, personally. Phoenix still has a lot of room to work with, but Mike would certainly get far more playing time in Chicago with Hull and Doan in Phoenix. Maybe add a pick or two to balance it out?
Time to dump salary for the Hawks. Thibault will be a giveaway; his trade return will be far lower than his actual merit as a player.
Vancouver needs to be on the horn. If I were Edmonton I'd look into him also.
If I were a team looking for a goalie, I would prefer Thibault over Cujo and Dunham without a doubt. Age being a primary reason.
Cechmanek, doesnt deserve to be talked about in the same sentence as those 3 goalies. I envision Cechmanek going back to Europe to play and leaving the NHL for good.
Time to dump salary for the Hawks. Thibault will be a giveaway; his trade return will be far lower than his actual merit as a player.
Vancouver needs to be on the horn. If I were Edmonton I'd look into him also.
If I were a team looking for a goalie, I would prefer Thibault over Cujo and Dunham without a doubt. Age being a primary reason.
Cechmanek, doesnt deserve to be talked about in the same sentence as those 3 goalies. I envision Cechmanek going back to Europe to play and leaving the NHL for good.
For better or worse, I think the Oilers are commited to Conklin/Markannen. They both come for cheap, played decently for the Oilers, and Jussi played very well in Europe last year.
I'm with J. I'd wouldn't mind having Tbo. Though, part of me thinks we're setting ourselves up for disaster again this year with some of the injury prone players we've added, and TBo will just be another one...
i've consulted the local indian shaman here in pasadena and asked him to exorcise the injury demons that has befallen our beloved kings team the past few years...
we're good to go he said...
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i've consulted the local indian cheif here in pasadena and asked him to exorcise the injury demons that has befallen our beloved kings team the past few years...
we're good to go he said...
Good news! Wait a second. Was he and Indian, from India? Or was he Native American? Because those guys from India don't have any special powers.
