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Semi-Annual Prospect Poll: #21 NYR Prospect

View Poll Results: Who's our 21h prospect?
D Tommy Hughes 1 4.55%
LW Ryan Bourque 8 36.36%
RW Michael Kantor 6 27.27%
RW Thomas Spelling 0 0%
C Steven Fogarty 6 27.27%
D Troy Donnay 1 4.55%
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01-23-2014, 12:05 PM
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Semi-Annual Prospect Poll: #21 NYR Prospect

D Sam Noreau became the final "Suspect" and RW Thomas Spelling is added to the poll.


Please write who you want added to the poll, and give a reason for it. This makes the discussion here more lively.


WHO IS A PROSPECT: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/whatmakesaprospect

HOW TO RANK PROSPECTS: Based on their value in a hypothetical trade or waiver draft. This takes into consideration a prospect's ceiling, how close he's to making it, his health, work ethic, the whole deal. Imagine there was a prospect waiver draft and you could keep only one prospect. That guy is our #1 prospect. Then imagine we had one more waiver protection. That guy is our #2 prospect.


TOP PROSPECTS

1. LW Chris Kreider
2. C J.T. Miller
3. D Dylan McIlrath
4. G Cameron Talbot
5. D Brady Skjei


SECOND TIER

6. C Oscar Lindberg
7. RW Danny Kristo
8. RW Jesper Fast
9. D Conor Allen
10. LW Anthony Duclair


PROJECTS

11. LW Pavel Buchnevich
12. C Cristoval Nieves
13. LW Marek Hrivik
14. C Adam Tambellini
15. C Michael St. Croix


SUSPECTS

16. D Ryan Graves
17. LW Andrew Yogan
18. G MacKenzie Skapski
19. D Calle Andersson
20. D Sam Noreau


Samuel Noreau
Defense -- shoots R
Born Jan 31 1993 -- Montreal, PQ
Height 6.05 -- Weight 223 [196 cm/101 kg]

2013-14 Greenville Road Warriors ECHL 29GP 0-2-2 44PIM





PROSPECTS ELIGIBLE TO BE ADDED

Beach, Kyle
Jean, Kyle
Missiaen, Jason
Nicholls, Josh
Stajcer, Scott
Wilson, Jason

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01-23-2014, 12:07 PM
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Gotta go with Kantor. Everyone on the list has no more than a 4th line/3rd pair potential, but he's the only one with a solid chance to make it.

Add Beach because he's the only one who's not in the ECHL.

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Kantor. Add Nicholls.

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I highly question how Kristo is our #7 ranked prospect. Buch at #11?

People vote based on hype. Have no idea what these prospects actually look like.

Kristo is in our top 3. Buch top 5 and pushing for top 3 once Kreider, Miller, and Talbot no longer are considered prospects.

McIlrath shouldn't be in the top 5 and I love him. He has a long way to go. One day maybe he'll realize his potential of being someone like Douglas Murray but he's still 3-4 years away from that.
100% agree with what you said about Kristo, can't say the same about Buchnevich but I've never seen him play...

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Went Bourque. He'll likely never make the show but he's a decent AHL vet. Add Nicholls.

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Fogarty. He still has a lot of potential. Add Beach

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01-23-2014, 02:09 PM
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I highly question how Kristo is our #7 ranked prospect. Buch at #11?

People vote based on hype. Have no idea what these prospects actually look like.

Kristo is in our top 3. Buch top 5 and pushing for top 3 once Kreider, Miller, and Talbot no longer are considered prospects.

McIlrath shouldn't be in the top 5 and I love him. He has a long way to go. One day maybe he'll realize his potential of being someone like Douglas Murray but he's still 3-4 years away from that.

You are going purely on the player's ceiling, not the odds he'll reach it. Kristo has great potential, but whether he'll reach it is a big question mark. Lindberg may have lesser potential, but he's a near-certainty to become an NHL player.

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I highly question how Kristo is our #7 ranked prospect. Buch at #11?

People vote based on hype. Have no idea what these prospects actually look like.

Kristo is in our top 3. Buch top 5 and pushing for top 3 once Kreider, Miller, and Talbot no longer are considered prospects.

McIlrath shouldn't be in the top 5 and I love him. He has a long way to go. One day maybe he'll realize his potential of being someone like Douglas Murray but he's still 3-4 years away from that.
Buchnevich gets more hype around here than Skjei, who a lot of people criticize. So I'm not buying the hype thing.

I don't see it with Kristo. The talent is there, but not in a consistent way. He's a dynamo on the PP, but I don't see a whole lot at even strength. He's not close to JT Miller, for instance.

I disagree that McIlrath is that far from making an impact. I think he's a year or two away. He's still raw, but has improved by leaps and bounds already. One to two years, by the way, is about where I see Kristo in terms of becoming an impact player.

This isn't an exact science. Everyone ranks the guys differently. It's not really fair though to make a blanket statement that people don't know the players and are just buying into hype. I watch the prospects more than most, and I don't have major problems with the list. I'd move a couple guys up or down a little bit, but nothing too drastic.

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01-23-2014, 02:49 PM
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Voted Bourque. Add Nicholls. (and finally, I'm not the only one asking for him to be added) He scored 110 goals in 3 years in the WHL when he was 20 and younger. He got 4 games in Hartford and now is in the ECHL. Not putting up the numbers I was hoping to see, but I'm holding out hope.

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Bourque. Add Beach.

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Kantor no question imo. Kantor has a legit chance of being a scrappy, POS, annoying 4th liner in the NHL. He's a NYC boy who would be an absolute favorite with the big club.

Add Nicholls.

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Bourque add Beach

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Gotta go with Kantor. Everyone on the list has no more than a 4th line/3rd pair potential, but he's the only one with a solid chance to make it.

Add Beach because he's the only one who's not in the ECHL.
sometime you must pls enlighten me on upside of Kantor.

I am not saying its not there or I don't see it.
Haven't looked that closely yet.

What's there?


Ps. voted Donnay
pls add Jean, Beach

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Fogarty, add Beach.

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sometime you must pls enlighten me on upside of Kantor.

I am not saying its not there or I don't see it.
Haven't looked that closely yet.

What's there?


Ps. voted Donnay
pls add Jean, Beach
Kantor has a legit chance of being a scrappy, POS, annoying 4th liner in the NHL.

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