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01-23-2014, 10:44 PM
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What's Canada A to Z teams would look like?

We all know what Canada's A team would look like and we also keep hearing comments from many Hfboards members that Canada could send a few more teams that could contend for the Olympics but with that said, what would the lineups look like for Team Canada's A team to B team to C team all the way to Z team lol.


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01-23-2014, 10:47 PM
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I think spezza might be good enough to make team z

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I think spezza might be good enough to make team z
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If they make the teams as balanced as possible they might get around 10-15 contender teams but the rest would struggle.

If they make the first teams as good as possible (meaning team A has Crosby, Stamkos etc). Teams A & B would be stacked, C would be a contender D-F might be a hard time for other countries and the rest couldn't really even compete.

But thats just speculation and unless we do a fantasy draft with Canadian players i really can't say for sure how would the rosters look like, this is all just guessing.

Also, the game is played on ice, not on paper.

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01-24-2014, 04:59 AM
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A benchmark: The Canadian teams will stop being competitive when a player like Cleary will be good enough for it.

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01-24-2014, 05:04 AM
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I've got to say, this question which gets asked in a dozen different threads before every tournament is becoming as annoying as the Big Ice v Small Ice debate. IMO since we know what Team A looks like and is not guaranteed of anything and we've seen Teams B-Z in various incarnations over the past 4 years since Vancouver and none have achieved any success for a variety of reasons, this, and with all due respect, is an exercise in futility.

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01-25-2014, 12:39 PM
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How many competitive teams could Canada send to the Olympics?

Not just including medal contending teams but also competitive teams in the Olympics.

How many teams could Canada send until it wouldn't get competitive? Until the likes of Austria could beat Canada?

For sure, the first 4 Canadian teams would be medal contending, the rest would be competitive. I think Canada could send 25 teams and then it wouldn't be competitive


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01-25-2014, 12:45 PM
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33 million population divide by 25 = 8 250 000 teams

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01-25-2014, 01:45 PM
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33 million population divide by 25 = 8 250 000 teams
Christ. I need to go back to school for math classes. I got a completely different answer.

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I think 2.

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25 teams is pretty conservative, I am thinking more like 40. A bunch of non-Canadians are going to come in here with their hurt feelings and tell you that number is too high though.

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01-25-2014, 03:07 PM
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I think 2.
Yes, me too. Canada can have two teams that could compete for the Gold, but not more than that. The 3rd team would be decent, but not enough to medal.

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01-25-2014, 03:16 PM
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Two could compete for Gold. Canada's B team could look something like this (just a rough draft so relax, no need to analyze):

Goal - Fleury, Crawford, Ward/Brodeur
Defense - Letang, Green, Giordano, Boyle, Seabrook, Campbell, M. Staal
Forwards - St. Louis, Thornton, E. Staal, Giroux, Hall, Eberle, Marchand, Lucic, Couture, Neal, Spezza, Seguin, J. Staal, M. Richards, Skinner

That team would fall short to Canada's real team, but it could arguably beat every other team.

After that, we could send another 4-5 teams at least before we get to the level of Norway or Austria. Remember, Thomas Vanek is from Austria so there is at least one pretty good NHLer on that team. Once we get to the point where we are using 4th line NHLers I think we'd stop. But there is a huge gap between the so-called big 6 nation and Austria and Norway so we could go on for a while with the pool of NHL talent.

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01-25-2014, 03:45 PM
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Depends.

If we spread the talent around could make a few teams that could be competitive for a medal (not necessarily favored) in the tournament... I'll try for 5 just to make things interesting.

Team 1:
Kunitz - Crosby - Neal
Cammalleri - Seguin - Benn
Schwartz - Bozak - Simmonds
MacArthur - Little - Purcell

Weber - Letang
Garrison - Hamhuis
Franson - Beauchemin

Luongo
Harding


Team 2:
Carter - Getzlaf - Perry
Horton - Tavares - Giroux
Lucic - Ribeiro - Roy
Moulson - J. Staal - Vermette

Keith - Seabrook
Boyle - Alzner
Brodie - Muzzin

Price
Holtby

Team 3:
Ladd - Stamkos - St. Louis
E. Kane - Spezza - Nash
Tanguay - R. O'Reilly - Kadri
Raymond - Turris - Versteeg

Pietrangelo - Bouwmeester
Bieksa - Girardi
Demers - Coburn

Crawford
Bernier

Team 4:
Marleau - Thornton - Couture
Hall - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Doan - M. Richards - J. Williams
Penner - Fisher - R. Smith

Doughty - Giordano
M. Staal - Campbell
Methot - Wideman

Smith
Mason

Team 5:
Sharp - Toews - Duchene
Lupul - E. Staal - Bergeron
Skinner - B. Richards - Iginla
Marchand - Johansen - Burns

Subban - Phaneuf
Vlasic - Green
MacDonald - Hamonic

Fluery
Ward

Honorable Mentions:
Brodeur, Lecavalier, Clowe, Glencross, B. Sutter, Hartnell, Perron, Stajan, B. Schenn, L. Schenn, Helm, Couturier, Upshall, Henrique, Brassard... and many more I'm sure


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01-25-2014, 04:22 PM
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Canada compared to Slovakia has 7 times the population, 44 times the number of indoor arenas and 64 times the number of kids under 20 playing hockey. If Canada spread their talent out evenly they could have many many competitive teams.

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01-25-2014, 04:34 PM
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Canada compared to Slovakia has 7 times the population, 44 times the number of indoor arenas and 64 times the number of kids under 20 playing hockey. If Canada spread their talent out evenly they could have many many competitive teams.
Having a large pool does not mean we can have 7 elite teams. There's no way the Canadian C team could be better than Russia's or Sweden's A team. The only advantage of depth is that Canada's D team will surely be better than any other countries D team, but at the A level, that doesn't matter.

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01-25-2014, 04:37 PM
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Team Canada: - Compete For Gold
Chris Kunitz - Sidney Crosby - Steven Stamkos
Patrick Marleau - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry
Patrick Sharp - Jonathan Toews - Rick Nash
Jamie Benn - John Tavares - Jeff Carter
Patrice Bergeron
Taxi: Matt Duchene

Duncan Keith - Drew Doughty
Jay Bouwmeester - Alex Pietrangelo
Marc-Edouard Vlasic - Shea Weber
PK Subban
Taxi: Dan Hamhuis

Roberto Luongo
Carey Price
Taxi: Mike Smith

Team Canada 2: - Compete For Gold
Taylor Hall - Claude Giroux - Martin St.Louis
James Neal - Joe Thornton - Brent Burns
Logan Couture - Jason Spezza - Tyler Seguin
Andrew Ladd - Eric Staal - Jeff Skinner
Mike Richards
Taxi: Milan Lucic

Francois Beauchemin - Brent Seabrook
Dion Phaneuf - Dan Boyle
Marc Giordano - Kris Letang
Brian Campbell
Taxi: Marc Staal

Corey Crawford
Marc-Andre Fleury
Taxi: Jonathan Bernier

Team Canada 3: - Pretty Competitive
Ryan O'Rielly - Ryan Nugent Hopkins - Jordan Eberle
Evander Kane - Bryan Little - Ryan Johansen
David Perron - Kyle Turris - Wayne Simmonds
Joffrey Lupul - Jordan Staal - Jarome Iginla
Brad Marchand
Taxi: Nathan MacKinnon

Jason Garrison - Mike Green
Mike Methot - Karl Alzner
Justin Schultz - Travis Hamonic
Kevin Bieksa
Taxi: Dougie Hamilton

Josh Harding
Braden Holtby
Taxi: Cam Ward

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01-25-2014, 04:38 PM
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It depends. If you spread the talent just thinly enough to be competitive(albeit not gold-favourites)) you could probably get a lot more than just 2 or 3.

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01-25-2014, 04:44 PM
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For sure, the first 4 Canadian teams would be medal contending,
Stopped reading here. I don't care how good canadian hockey is in the parallel universe.

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01-25-2014, 05:03 PM
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25 teams is pretty conservative, I am thinking more like 40. A bunch of non-Canadians are going to come in here with their hurt feelings and tell you that number is too high though.
Didn't hurt my feelings but I'd like to see those 25 teams.. or 40.

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Having a large pool does not mean we can have 7 elite teams. There's no way the Canadian C team could be better than Russia's or Sweden's A team. The only advantage of depth is that Canada's D team will surely be better than any other countries D team, but at the A level, that doesn't matter.
But in a one game tournament, they're close enough in talent that Canada's C team could beat Russia's A team (in the same sense that Switzerland could beat Canada).

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01-25-2014, 05:11 PM
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But in a one game tournament, they're close enough in talent that Canada's C team could beat Russia's A team (in the same sense that Switzerland could beat Canada).
Yes, the Canadian C team could beat the Russian A team, but it could not medal. Do you think the Swiss will medal this time? Well neither will Team Canada C.

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if they have coach from finland 30 but with canadian coach 1

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Considering Canada failed to win or even medal at the IIHF WC - the place where a 2nd or 3rd team would play - in years, less as you think.

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