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01-27-2014, 12:05 AM
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Good job with that list.
Sarcasm?

But really, those seem to be the core guys right now, don't they? Maybe Lovejoy too. He's been damn good. Those just seem to be the guys who, night after night, are consistently the guys we lean on.

I love Selanne to death, but he really doesn't belong on it. :/ Not this season. The kids aren't consistently those guys yet either. It's pretty crazy some of the young talent we have, who are still just getting their feet wet and are already contributing. Or players like Etem and Vatanen who could/should be in the NHL. This season has been a bit surreal.

Edit: Yeah, that's true, but they are also established vets.

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Sarcasm?

But really, those seem to be the core guys right now, don't they? Maybe Lovejoy too. He's been damn good. Those just seem to be the guys who, night after night, are consistently the guys we lean on.

I love Selanne to death, but he really doesn't belong on it. :/ Not this season. The kids aren't consistently those guys yet either. It's pretty crazy some of the young talent we have, who are still just getting their feet wet and are already contributing. Or players like Etem and Vatanen who could/should be in the NHL. This season has been a bit surreal.

Edit: Yeah, that's true, but they are also established vets.
No not sarcasm

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I also think that Getzlaf's evolution into the captain he has become, is a pretty underrated part. He doesn't just wear the C now. He deserves it. He is that guy.
Agreed Getzlaf has been awesome his leadership really spews through the team

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I also think that Getzlaf's evolution into the captain he has become, is a pretty underrated part. He doesn't just wear the C now. He deserves it. He is that guy.
Very good point.

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But really, those seem to be the core guys right now, don't they? Maybe Lovejoy too. He's been damn good. Those just seem to be the guys who, night after night, are consistently the guys we lean on.

I love Selanne to death, but he really doesn't belong on it. :/ Not this season. The kids aren't consistently those guys yet either. It's pretty crazy some of the young talent we have, who are still just getting their feet wet and are already contributing. Or players like Etem and Vatanen who could/should be in the NHL. This season has been a bit surreal.
Agree with this. The youth has definitely played a big role, but as you and others have stated, youth will be youth and are prone to inconsistencies. As much as Ducksgo is going to hate me, it really is a huge luxury that we don't have to throw the likes of Etem and Vatanen in to the lineup every night and can allow them to fully develop their game in the AHL(just an example).

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01-27-2014, 12:12 AM
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Agreed Getzlaf has been awesome his leadership really spews through the team
Maybe one day he'll get the respect he deserves as a leader. I really think he's becoming one of the better captains in the league.

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Maybe one day he'll get the respect he deserves as a leader. I really think he's becoming one of the better captains in the league.
I don't think that will never happen to the extent it should. But I have no problem with it, we never get any respect we deserve but I for one can care less, I get to enjoy this team and Getzlaf for a long time, its going to be an amazing next decade.

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Good job with that list. Although Fowler is still #YouthMovement and Cogs, Bonino are still semi Youth Movement.
Cogs and Bonino are 26. That's prime production years. Fowler is in his 4th season. Those are veterans, despite Fowler's age.

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Cogs and Bonino are 26. That's prime production years. Fowler is in his 4th season. Those are veterans, despite Fowler's age.
Fowler is 22, that is Youth. and Bonino is just developing...same with Cogs.

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Fowler is 22, that is Youth. and Bonino is just developing...same with Cogs.
Youth by definition only, the guy has more NHL games played than Lovejoy who is close to 30. Cogs and Bonino are 26, they may not be at their peaks yet but they're close to it.

We have a lot of good young players in our system but the roster is dominated by vets playing key roles.

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01-27-2014, 01:44 AM
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I want to add that I too believe that Getz' development since being named captain has been phenomenal. I was against him being named captain at the time. He was far from captain material at that time. But he has really grown as a leader and not so oddly his game has improved as well. And he deserves a ton of credit for that maturity and development.

I think it was Burke who once said Getzlaf can be as good as he wants to be. He's decided he wants to be. Props to the big man.

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I want to add that I too believe that Getz' development since being named captain has been phenomenal. I was against him being named captain at the time. He was far from captain material at that time. But he has really grown as a leader and not so oddly his game has improved as well. And he deserves a ton of credit for that maturity and development.

I think it was Burke who once said Getzlaf can be as good as he wants to be. He's decided he wants to be. Props to the big man. :thumbu:
Think that was Messier, or Messier made an eerily similar statement about Getzlaf.

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01-27-2014, 02:05 AM
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I actually found it...said back in 2007 when Getz signed his previous deal.

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/nov...s/sp-duckrep21

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"[Coach] Randy [Carlyle] and I have said this before. Ryan Getzlaf can be as good as he wants to be. Usually that means it's a slap in the face. It's not at all. We mean it as the highest compliment."

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01-27-2014, 03:32 AM
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Getz finally shaving his head is the secret.

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Think that was Messier, or Messier made an eerily similar statement about Getzlaf.
Plenty of people have said that.

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Depth we literally have 5 working effective forward lines we can dress, and on defense we have 7(no including sbisa/souray) players that come out and do well every night. We also have 3 goalies that the team seems confident they can win with every night.

Coaching/leadership, doesnt matter how bad the team plays in the first they come out and know they are still in the game, the team all seems to play in the same mindset everyone blocks shot and plays a good team game.

The emergence of Fowler, Lovejoy, and Lindholm... i dont think anyone could have expected our defense core to do as well as they are, those 3 players have matured and played high quality hockey, the whole season.

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Darth Yenik and I say the Bolton is the only reason

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Most of have been mentioned but I will reiterate:

-Getz and Perry playing up to their contracts.

-Hiller having his best season yet.

-Fowler becoming a top pair defenseman (I'd argue that this is biggest reason)

-Depth. We literally have no 4th line.

I'd like to see another big piece brought in with our wealth of assets, but Murray can get hesitant when it comes to moving one of his picks/prospects. Not necessarily a bad thing, but I'd like to see a big piece brought in personally.

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Darth Yenik and I say the Bolton is the only reason
This is the correct answer.

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So the question was why are we so dominant this season?

Last season, we were unsustainable. This season has become dominant from several factors.

Forwards
Perry was slumping last year. Once Perry was signed to a long extension in the offseason, there was an article citing that Perry's game took a hit because he was unsure about becoming a free agent whereas his twin, Getzlaf was set to return in heart and mind (it doesn't hurt that he's got a family established in the OC and his wife is from the OC as well). It was all mental for Perry. If one were to look back at Perry's scoring trend, everything projected that Perry be the top or one of the top goal scoring Western conference players. Last year looked odd.

More two way players. MP22, Silf, and Jackman have forced talented youngings like Etem and Rakell to stay down in the farm team.

Penner has rekindled the fire he once had long ago when he was paired with Perry and Getzlaf as rookies with the Ducks. Penner is still not in great shape, but he's producing much better than he has been in the past several years.

Defense
"Producing Gems"
The Ducks were ousted in the first round of the playoffs. When Lydman went down, then we had too many untested defensemen on the ice. Fowler and Lovejoy were paired up last year when the Ducks acquired Lovejoy. Lovejoy was traded with a low round pick and has developed into this gem. This year, they've both grown tremendously as this year they are our top pairing defensemen.

Three other gems to speak about are 19 year old Hampus "Magnus" Lindholm, fellow rookie Sami Vatanen, and journeyman Mark Fistric. Initially, Magnus was not part of the plan. The team was struggling at the beginning of the season on the blue line. After some games, Magnus was finally called up from the AHL and his star has been rocketing ever since. He's a very steady defenseman who's also a very good puck moving defenseman, PMD. Vatanen, a fourth round pick, has continued to grow on the back end as he's using better positioning to dissuade opposing forwards from their line. (Note: Never put Magnus and Vatanen as a pairing on 5v5 as they're both thinking PINCH seeing they've offensive defensemen.) Vatanen gives the Ducks a PMD on every defensive pairing: Fowler, Lindholm, and Vatanen. Fistric was a late free agent acquisition due to the knowledge that Souray broke his wrist in the off-season. In Anaheim, Fistric game was simplified. His game is to be a defensive defenseman. Often, his partner has been Lindholm and Fistric has said that the game is easier with Lindholm because all he needs to do is to get the Puck to Lindholm and Lindholm does the rest. Hence, Lindholm's affectionate nickname is Magnus! Fistric too has begun to become a better defenseman.

Fistric and Lovejoy's defensive game really mimic's that of an older gem, Frankie Beauchemin. Beauch has been known for devastating hits, particularly the hip check. We don't usually see hip checks being delivered often in the NHL, but in Anaheim, both Fistric and Lovejoy seem to do it with regularity.

Oh... and Allen is skating much, much better this year than last year.

Goaltending
Our cup runneth over with superfluous talent.
The Ducks are four deep in net in talent, but three deep in NHL proven netminders. Hiller has this pattern of starting out slow since his vertigo symptoms many years ago. Fasth helped out immensely last year. This year, Fasth got hurt and rookie Andersen stepped up this year as well!

Flexibility
Drafting, FA, and coaching.
The veterans are feeling more comfortable in coach BB's system. Not many teams can roll four lines, but the Ducks can. In fact, the Ducks can make small changes in their line up that make them go from speed team with Vatanen on defense and Palms with Teemu. Or they can go big and bulky with Fistric on defense and the forwards used could be Maroon, Jackman, and Penner.

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01-27-2014, 01:13 PM
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Don't like this premature back-patting thread. No sir not one bit.

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Don't like this premature back-patting thread. No sir not one bit.
Obvious jinx thread is obvious.

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Don't like this premature back-patting thread. No sir not one bit.
I didn't take it to be back patting as much as analyzing what has gone well so far. Some people might do well to have this perspective when some of the let's make a deal proposals get throw around.

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Getz finally shaving his head is the secret.
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