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02-08-2014, 04:53 PM
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So I created another team the other day. I can't bear myself to log back in to it though. Knowing how much work I put into my previous team, I just don't think I have the effort in me to do it again.
How much of that work was learning the game and working on strategies that wouldn't need to be re-done? I'm assuming you're primarily (or only) interested in hockey, but I've found it very rewarding to try to work my way up in handball (albeit at the beginning of the sport).

PPM works well in that a few minutes a day can keep your team afloat and progressing. Once you understand how the game works and develop your strategies, the primary reason (in my opinion) to spend more time on the game is scouring the market for deals. A number of teams have been able to piece together solid teams by doing so (especially with RFAs).

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Hockey is becoming exciting as for the first time in a while, I'm in a race for a playoff spot late in the season. I'll play the 8th place HCD Crackers on Monday with a chance to jump to within a point of them. Zomg sits in 9th and we'll play in game 37 of the season. Four teams are battling for two spots and are separated by 5 points in the standings. Yesterday I broke a streak of 4 consecutive overtime games, with 3 of those ending in a shootout. Unfortunately I lost 3 of those games.

In soccer, I had targeted a LD and a LM. As discussed here earlier, I landed the LD early this week. Today I landed my LM. He's only 18, so he might fit into the prospect category. From what I've researched, he dropped to 5/6 at age 17. His OR is good for his age and his EQ becomes tops on my team (note: I do not include CL in my EQ calcs). As an added bonus, I won't have to worry about the Coronas or Atomics or anyone else grabbing the top spot on the league's top AQ players list for a while.

In handball, I made my first player purchase. As I discussed earlier this week, my wings were in rough shape. What I didn't publicly share is that both of my wings preferred the right side. I purchased a 15, 6/6, 280 OR, left wing which raised my team's offense and defense ratings in his first match. I'll have to sacrifice infrastructure development somewhere, but I still expect to start SA-12 in 18 days.

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II.4 has a tight race for the 8th spot. 6th to 9th are 3 points apart. 3 make it 1 does not. I am sitting in 8th and have a tough schedule to finish. So close. But enjoying it very much.

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In soccer, I had targeted a LD and a LM. As discussed here earlier, I landed the LD early this week. Today I landed my LM. He's only 18, so he might fit into the prospect category. From what I've researched, he dropped to 5/6 at age 17. His OR is good for his age and his EQ becomes tops on my team (note: I do not include CL in my EQ calcs). As an added bonus, I won't have to worry about the Coronas or Atomics or anyone else grabbing the top spot on the league's top AQ players list for a while.
Hah. That's crazy. I was interested in that guy last time he was on the market. Had him scouted and everything. Sick player. 94AQ

Why do you think he was 5/6 at 17yo? I can't say one way or the other for sure, but I didn't usually bid on 5/6 back then. Although I might have scouted him just because his Qs were so ridiculous. I should probably start adding Notes to everyone I scout.

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II.4 has a tight race for the 8th spot. 6th to 9th are 3 points apart. 3 make it 1 does not. I am sitting in 8th and have a tough schedule to finish. So close. But enjoying it very much.
Just so you know, I am conserving energy for the playoffs. So I won't be changing the tactics for our game.

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02-08-2014, 10:03 PM
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Hah. That's crazy. I was interested in that guy last time he was on the market. Had him scouted and everything. Sick player. 94AQ

Why do you think he was 5/6 at 17yo? I can't say one way or the other for sure, but I didn't usually bid on 5/6 back then. Although I might have scouted him just because his Qs were so ridiculous. I should probably start adding Notes to everyone I scout.
His Qs are very, very nice. His shot hasn't been trained and I need to decide how much to train that in particular. A lot of my older midfielders have a lot of shot, not so much with the young ones. For whatever reason, I feel like I should train it to ~100 and then train it at 0%.

As far as why I think he was 5/6 at 17: cached pages on Google.

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Scouted my handball purchase, here's the breakdown of how Qs changed:

While on market:
66 98 62 66 68 89 85 76

After joining team:
66 83 56 63 77 95 99 52

Scouted:
61 96 69 67 72 99 98 65

His FiP, Tec, and Spe are very high. That'll make for a fine wing.

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Those of you using PPMe in conjunction with Chrome, are you still experiencing the issue that PPMe suddenly stops working? I can no longer reproduce this. There have been some updates for Chrome in the last few days, might be that they have inadvertently fixed the issue.

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Those of you using PPMe in conjunction with Chrome, are you still experiencing the issue that PPMe suddenly stops working? I can no longer reproduce this. There have been some updates for Chrome in the last few days, might be that they have inadvertently fixed the issue.
Ooh, this sounds like good news. I'll redownload it so I can get it working again and take a look.

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EIGHT soccer players trained over 4.00 last night. The highest was at 4.45. Holy hell.

Anyone crack 5.00 in training?

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As far as why I think he was 5/6 at 17: cached pages on Google.
Pretty sneaky, sis.

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EIGHT soccer players trained over 4.00 last night. The highest was at 4.45. Holy hell.

Anyone crack 5.00 in training?
I think the highest during my last training camp was 4.70. Eight over 4.00 sounds like a lot, very nice.

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Hm my top handball player trained 1.09 without camp, switched him from 73Q shot to train 92Q passing just to see how high he would train when on NT duty. He's still slowly losing ground vs other top players around the world with similar OR due to not-so-great Qs

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canucks, a question regarding CL. Of course you know a 15 6/6 who drops to 5/6 at 16 will be guaranteed 5/6 for four seasons. Is there something similar for 4/6? Say a 15 born 5/6, drops to 4/6 at 17. That's just about the worst case scenario for a players CL. Will he stay at 4/6 for four seasons?

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I think the highest during my last training camp was 4.70. Eight over 4.00 sounds like a lot, very nice.
I knew you'd get a bit better My Regen is still only level 14. For 12 more days. I don't know why it took so long.


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canucks, a question regarding CL. Of course you know a 15 6/6 who drops to 5/6 at 16 will be guaranteed 5/6 for four seasons. Is there something similar for 4/6? Say a 15 born 5/6, drops to 4/6 at 17. That's just about the worst case scenario for a players CL. Will he stay at 4/6 for four seasons?
I'll toss an answer in here.

It's impossible for a player to hit 3/6 before age 21. So a player born at 5/6 that drops to 4/6 at 17, will drop to 3/6 exactly at age 21.

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I can see that will be the last of the big 4 to hit 15 for you. You'll be the 6th team in the league to do so, although one of those is the High Headerz. I'm pretty sure you can guess the other 4.

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I'll toss an answer in here.

It's impossible for a player to hit 3/6 before age 21. So a player born at 5/6 that drops to 4/6 at 17, will drop to 3/6 exactly at age 21.
Thanks. That's good to know.

What do you think of this guy then?
Oskar Pseno 5/6 @ 15yo.
CM - 225 (98) 45 (95) 51 (66) 159 (87) 165 (99) 109 (96) 69 (80)

I was interested. Had the 4/6 through 20yo been confirmed, I might have pushed bidding over 400M.

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How much of that work was learning the game and working on strategies that wouldn't need to be re-done? I'm assuming you're primarily (or only) interested in hockey, but I've found it very rewarding to try to work my way up in handball (albeit at the beginning of the sport).

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I am talking about building up the facilities, having the players at the skill levels they were at..

watching my players train .08 at a time is sad.

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I am talking about building up the facilities, having the players at the skill levels they were at..

watching my players train .08 at a time is sad.
That is my football and hockey team. They need to leave early to get to the 4PM special at the all you can eat buffet.

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How are the big leagues doing this year with sponsorships ?
No clue. I can ask around. I'm scared of my C/L drops tonight . Lots of money invested this year in players.

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Whoa. The young goalie I mentioned picking up a few days ago is finally scouted.
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Goa 	469 95 <-
Def 	33 75	
Mid 	33 87	
Off 	28 61
Sho 	46 84	
Pas 	86 97	<-
Tec 	133 60 <-	
Spe 	165 98 <-
Hea  87 97 <-
Great add man. Get those secondaries up, he's a few seasons away.

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EIGHT soccer players trained over 4.00 last night. The highest was at 4.45. Holy hell.

Anyone crack 5.00 in training?
I've been up to 4.8 I think. The variance is quite high from day to day.

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canucks, a question regarding CL. Of course you know a 15 6/6 who drops to 5/6 at 16 will be guaranteed 5/6 for four seasons. Is there something similar for 4/6? Say a 15 born 5/6, drops to 4/6 at 17. That's just about the worst case scenario for a players CL. Will he stay at 4/6 for four seasons?
As Obryantj said, 17 4/6 is guaranteed 4 years at 4/6. I've also found 16 6/6 to 17 5/6 had 4 years at 5/6 recently but I wouldn't call it a rule just yet.

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I am talking about building up the facilities, having the players at the skill levels they were at.. watching my players train .08 at a time is sad.
Be patient. My advice? You already know the game. A few things have changed since you left, but that's minor. Get your 11 manager EXP again then hit the market, have some fun. Land some guys for as cheap as possible that are significant steps up. No need to worry about Age or C/L or Qs since your TF and such are crap. Get winning then start racking in cash and build from there. It can be fun to win with a hodge podge bunch of guys and constantly spending on the market

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Ran the 112 day numbers on my player OR deltas. My new CM averaged over 2/day (226 in the last 112 days) but he could have had multiple camps on his old team plus my two. Darwin (19 yo 5/6 CF) was +213 this season followed closely by Clint (17yo 6/6 CM) at +211. I was shocked to see my worst, long-time captain and Canada NT stronghold CB Borden at only +89 this season. I double-checked the numbers are they're spot on.

US Senior NT stricker Sharrard was +185 (made it to 1699 OR, so close to 1700!) like aged and C/L'd Jobson was +194. Lastly, I was quite pleased with my 16yo stud CB who climbed 206 OR points from 630 to 836 OR before turning 17.

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Name   	   Pos    Age  C/L  End	  Start   Diff	Av
Buzs   	SB	25	4	1302	1183	119	1.06
Barber	RB	25	4	1461	1328	133	1.19
Sedej 	RM	25	4	1514	1375	139	1.24
Borden	CB	25	3	1626	1537	89	0.79
Gartlan	CM	25	3	1345	1243	102	0.91
MacNeil	GK	25	3	1440	1338	102	0.91
Knight	CB	24	3	1456	1361	95	0.85
McDermott	LB	23	4	1629	1473	156	1.39
Macon	CF	23	4	1578	1392	186	1.66
Himper	CF	23	3	1608	1486	122	1.09
Loewen	RM	22	4	1502	1332	170	1.52
Byrne 	GK	22	4	1477	1303	174	1.55
Dawdy	LM	22	4	1623	1439	184	1.64
Sharrard	CF	22	4	1699	1514	185	1.65
Jobson	CF	22	4	1632	1438	194	1.73
Lineham	CM	21	5	1478	1294	184	1.64
Jurica 	CB	19	5	1219	1025	194	1.73
Orr    	GK	19	5	1210	1008	202	1.80
Darwin	CF	19	5	1256	1043	213	1.90
Fabri  	LM	18	6	994	809	185	1.65
Slavicky	CM	18	6	1104	908	196	1.75
Morumbi	LM	18	5	1193	1023	170	1.52
Zamorsky	CM	18	5	1038	849	189	1.69
Durkin	RM	18	5	1186	987	199	1.78
Ondrejcak	RB	18	5	1074	866	208	1.86
Jacobs	CB	17	6	875	734	141	1.26
Spengler	CF	17	6	943	766	177	1.58
Borghoff	CB	17	6	951	767	184	1.64
Domian	CM	17	6	920	710	210	1.88
Clint   	CM	17	6	911	700	211	1.88
Podzemny	CM	17	6	1021	795	226	2.02
Gallagher	CB	16	6	836	630	206	1.84
Chapple	LM	16	5	699	511	188	1.68
Kimble	CB	15	6	634	511	123	2.08
Holmes	SB	15	6	626	496	130	1.49

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You may get 10k. I would let him disappear into the engine once I had a full team and he could be dropped.

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C/L drops weren't too bad. Most were expected. One 17 6/6 went to 18 5/6. One really did piss me off though. That 100M I spend on that LM, I was told he was at least 16 6/6 when I'm sure he was 15 5/6 since he is now 19 4/6. Given his lack of secondaries he is now officially useless to me. I've burned 200M this year on crap like this, not happy.

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C/L drops weren't too bad. Most were expected. One 17 6/6 went to 18 5/6. One really did piss me off though. That 100M I spend on that LM, I was told he was at least 16 6/6 when I'm sure he was 15 5/6 since he is now 19 4/6. Given his lack of secondaries he is now officially useless to me. I've burned 200M this year on crap like this, not happy.
Most of my drops were guaranteed as well. The ones that weren't were fell into __ categories:
  • Players turning 26 who dropped to 3/6 (Hrebec and Vrsecky). I was considering letting both guys go in RFA, but we'll see what the offers are like.
  • Guys I just bought (Pariset and Stonavsky). Apparently I was wrong about Stonavsky's career path, but at 19 and 4/6, he'll fit in with the rest of my top prospects. I sent just over 900M on these two in the last week. I don't consider that to be burning cash, because both still have futures in my lineup.
  • Alex Yates (LM prospect) He dropped to 5/6 at 17.

The guaranteed drops were: Hammons (23 and 4/6), Holmes (21 and 3/6), and Colburn (19 and 4/6). Only 8 drops total, with a lot of good players avoiding the drop.

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With the alignment in USA II.4 picked up 7 DIII teams and only one DI team came down. I think it will be La Banda Roja in 1st ,Minions in 2nd, Wasphawks in 3rd and Fistaco in 4th.

OG's goals this season is as follows
1. Begin building 2 TF12's (Which will leave 2 more then finished)
2. Upgrade LM, RM, RD, CDL and CFR by 100 to 200 OR per player on the UFA market.
3. Finish 5-8th in league standings and the same in League Cup.
4. Facilities : MF11, EC4-5


This season will be a grind except when I am upgrading the players. That starts on day 20 and ends on day 100. To keep things a little interesting and since both A and B teams are close I will be using them often this season. I will be spending the energy to increase the OTR so I can have better GS next season. The cut in Sponsor money for a 2nd season in a row has put me back by about 2 months in arena building but hopefully I can make that up this season.

I contacted Manum about being the S-NT backup so I can learn the ropes and put some time in before running for the NT Under 20 in handball. If anyone here is interested in that as Manager or Assistant let me know and we can start to plan that out ahead of time.

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2. Upgrade LM, RM, RD, CDL and CFR by 100 to 200 OR per player on the UFA market.
I forgot to sell my backup SB (Universal) as he had his 4 years at 4/6 and dropped to 3/6. He will be an RFA shortly. Let me know if he fits your bill and how much you bid. If it is a reasonable amount and I know you're the highest bidder I'll let him walk.


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Drops.
McCready dropped to 2/6 at 25. Those damn injuries at the end of the season all but guaranteed this. This will make it cheaper to re-sign him next season. If that's what I want to do.

24yos remained the same CL.
23yos remained the same CL.
22yos remained the same CL.
21yos remained the same CL.

20yos had one drop. Possible future starter at RSM Irbe is 4/6. He will need to be replaced now because he also has low OR. Just like canucks said a few weeks ago. Prophet much?

19yos only cared about two players. Coates was a guarantee drop to 4/6 after four seasons at 5/6. The new goalie I bought who was 5/6 at 18 remained so. Very happy with that.

18yos- Mezuz, the top Israeli on the U17 team dropped to 4/6 at 18. That sucks. Since I knew this was possible, I just bought another 17yo CM prospect who was 6/6. Thankfully he's still 6/6 at 18yo. Very happy with that, too.

17yos only cared about two again. The RSD that I just bought remained 6/6, but my good pull at CD dropped to 5/6. Dammit.

16yos saw my other good CD prospect drop to 5/6. God dammit.

So some good and some bad. I wouldn't be so annoyed if they hadn't dropped both of my young CDs. I knew a lot of the others were possible, but those two had the chance to anchor my team for a long time.

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I forgot to sell my backup SB (Universal) as he had his 4 years at 4/6 and dropped to 3/6. He will be an RFA shortly. Let me know if he fits your bill and how much you bid. If it is a reasonable amount and I know you're the highest bidder I'll let him walk.
I usually ask (at max) half of the going rate as I spam away until one sticks. I will let you know when it gets closer. Say day 30 that way you can move him or let him go to RFA.

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Ran the 112 day numbers on my player OR deltas.
I liked this analysis. I've included my team's day 1 to day 1 OR improvement for players who spent the entire season on my roster. Ages and CLs are current (i.e. updated for the new season). No one trained less than 100 OR over the course of the season, but Mark, Bragg and Agapiv were close. Amongst the three of them, they average 130 experience.

Piras is a training machine for his age. Both members of the Young and Jalon duo cracked 200 OR. Birch Johnson led the group with 229 OR gained and was one of five players to exceed 200 OR without being on a NT. There's also a few players who weren't expected to stay with the team long-term that stand out on the other end of the spectrum. I'm sure that not making training camps didn't help their cause.

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Name   	           Age  C/L       End   Start  Diff	
Max Mark	        27	3	1624	1524	100
Sandy Bragg	27	3	1480	1379	101
Chard Mcintyre	26	3	1563	1443	120
K. Vršecký	        26	3	1619	1481	138
Tobiáš Hřebec	26	3	1458	1336	122
Kyrylo Agapiv	25	3	1451	1349	102
V. Taganovich	25	3	1714	1587	127
Gwendal Piras	24	4	1836	1635	201
Kirk Spicer	        24	4	1712	1535	177
Ben Keen	        23	4	1381	1239	142
Tim Hammons	23	4	1598	1418	180
Ed Crenshaw	22	4	1641	1451	190
Ljubiša Simić	22	4	1621	1430	191
Maks Keber	        22	4	1479	1320	159
Alexander Ruffin	21	4	1507	1321	186
Chester Holmes	21	3	1516	1351	165
Francisco Jalón	21	4	1665	1458	207
Hudson Young	21	4	1710	1508	202
Arch Ward	        20	4	1384	1198	186
Darrin Braxton	20	4	1346	1144	202
Eddie Brady	        20	4	1365	1191	174
Esteban Alaniz	20	5	1363	1147	216
Matt Hernandez	20	5	1326	1145	181
Sigis Bužys	        20	5	1309	1136	173
Julius Mendez	19	4	1158	974	184
Noel Holm	        19	5	1219	1007	212
Oscar Colburn	19	4	1272	1067	205
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