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NHL Could Re-Evaluate Sending Players to Sochi (Warning in Post #6)

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01-28-2014, 12:18 PM
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NHL Could Re-Evaluate Sending Players to Sochi (Warning in Post #6)

Interesting read..
Americans getting notices to keep a low profile out of events.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...families-home/

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The father of St. Louis Blues forward T.J. Oshie put it this way:
Its getting to the point where our lives are on the line if we go there, Tim Oshie told the New York Times. Theyre talking about terrorizing families. Id rather stay in the homeland.
Many are wondering if the NHL may feel the same way if the situation surrounding Sochi worsens.
The title is misleading. There's no quotes or hints from the NHL. The article just wonders if the NHL is going to get worried. Seems to late at this point.


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I think at this point something major would have to happen in order for them to pull out. Unlikely, but of course everything is possible.

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I think at this point something major would have to happen in order for them to pull out. Unlikely, but of course everything is possible.
The thing that really made me think was Loktionov's comments. He said he would be nervous about going and the train station that got bombed is a place you HAVE to travel through if you take mass transit from St Petersburg or Moscow to Sochi.

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I think at this point something major would have to happen in order for them to pull out. Unlikely, but of course everything is possible.
Like more terrorist attacks???

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Like more terrorist attacks???
I don't think even another terrorist attack somewhere else in Russia would be enough.

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I will add this un-heeded warning from the last closed Sochi security thread:

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This topic will stay open with the consensus that it doesn't venture into politics. If it does, it will be closed.

You've been warned. Don't bring politics into this thread.
Comments by players & the League - OK.
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If this thread strays into "my country is better than yours" territory it will be closed.

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Well given the NHL depends on these guys going over for ticket sales, TV revenue, Merchandise sales etc, they have every right to protect their assets.

If something were to happen before or during the games, they have every right to prevent them from going or demand their players return.

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I'm sorry but that was such an uneducated "Murican level" statement on Oshie's father's behalf. The Olympics are probably the most well recognized and prestige events in the world. Doubt they would compromise that in Russia. If they let them have the Olympics, they clearly trust them and their security measures. The NHL I guess never wanted them to be their because of insurance reasons, so they might use the "not safe" thing to try and cover it up.

It's not like their sending the players to cape town

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Interesting read..
Americans getting notices to keep a low profile out of events.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...families-home/



The title is misleading. There's no quotes or hints from the NHL. The article just wonders if the NHL is going to get worried. Seems to late at this point.
Americans are always told to keep a low profile at major events.

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If anything, Russia will be too safe for some people's liking.

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I dont think Putin will let anything happen. Russia is a wast country, but Sochi is not. It will be a virtual lockdown.

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Russians want Sochi games to be a good PR. They make sure it is safe IMO. Chances are some car will hit you in the US if you stay home, might be even as high as chances that something happens to you in Sochi.

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The scary thing is that if the Chechens or other Islamic groups hit Sochi in some way, the response from Russia/Putin is going to be something we have never seen before.

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Too late for them to change tune. NHLPA wouldn't allow it.

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Does the NHL have the leverage to insist the men's hockey portion of the games be relocated to A more secure location away from the Caucasus like Moscow?

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Does the NHL have the leverage to insist the men's hockey portion of the games be relocated to A more secure location away from the Caucasus like Moscow?
Sochi is by far the most secure place for the hockey games to take place in Russia. Other places don't have millions spent on security.

Anyways if an attack were to happen , it would not be at one of the olympic venues, rather the town it self.

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Too late for them to change tune. NHLPA wouldn't allow it.
Yes they would. The NHL and NHLPA are both concerned

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Barring something catastrophic, the NHL will go to Sochi.

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The scary thing is that if the Chechens or other Islamic groups hit Sochi in some way, the response from Russia/Putin is going to be something we have never seen before.
Not at all, Putin is being spun into some kind of mythical uber-thug by the west but he's pragmatic above all. That's how he managed to stay on top for so long in Russia of all places. The average westerner thinks he's an iron strongman but in reality he's performing a very careful balancing act. His coalition (United Russia) existed before him and will exist after him, and it's up to him to convince them to keep him in power because the moment he leaves his life will be in the hands of other people. You didn't see anything otherworldly after all the other attacks on his watch and you won't see anything other-worldly here. If you think his previous responses to terror attacks were over the top look at how the US turned the entire world upside down after 9/11. That's something no one has ever seen before.

He's less security oriented MOD than the majority of Russians want him to be. For real.


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Sochi is by far the most secure place for the hockey games to take place in Russia. Other places don't have millions spent on security.

Anyways if an attack were to happen , it would not be at one of the olympic venues, rather the town it self.
They have millions spent on security because it's basically next to an active war zone. Are the individual players allowed to withdraw without penalty? They must be.

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They have millions spent on security because it's basically next to an active war zone. Are the individual players allowed to withdraw without penalty? They must be.
If it really comes to that, they can get a mysterious and unspecified injury at least. Don't know if they're allowed to just go back on their word once they've been confirmed, someone else will have to check the rules on that.

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If it really comes to that, they can get a mysterious and unspecified injury at least. Don't know if they're allowed to just go back on their word once they've been confirmed, someone else will have to check the rules on that.
As far as I know, at this point you will have to have a doctor write up a report on why you can't go, and the reason needs to at least look medically valid. Unless there is a special rule for these Olympics that I'm not aware of, the players chosen can no longer decline unless there is a valid injury.

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What exactly has changed that they'd want to pull out now of all times?

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What exactly has changed that they'd want to pull out now of all times?
They don't want to pull out, Daly just made some comment that if they had to they would.

Just seems like more North American hysterics about the security there.

It's funny now that there aren't any more youtube videos or random emails to report, they've moved on to human rights and interviewing the mayor about having no gays in town.

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If I was a professional athlete, I would not attend these games.

I guess it's a bit different for the amateurs, but the incentive for the professionals is so minimal that I don't understand why they've decided to go.

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