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Rangers Shopping Ryan Callahan, will trade Girardi/Callahan If Not signed

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01-31-2014, 07:34 AM
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Callahan on an already strong team would be absolutely devastating. Playing less minutes on a lower line would make his p/k and energy play much more effective. He's a high emotion, high leadership player a contender could rely on in a deep PO run. I know Pitt can't afford him, but he would really bolster them for a long run.

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01-31-2014, 07:51 AM
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I'd be shocked if we got more than a 1st and mid level prospect for Callahan.

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Why is Cally even on the market? If anyone deserves to be overpaid a little by the Rangers its him. Team captain, rah rah hero type, solid in every aspect. Money shouldn't be an issue, Rangers have never been scared to spend, cap shouldn't be an issue with all the free agents, rising cap & Richards buy out, so why is he being shopped? Has the broken leg, exploded knee or rebuilt shoulder affected him? Kids in the system that can replace him?
Over payment by a "little" is one thing. Cally want's the bank. Rangers are wise to just not do it & let him go via trade.

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He's Dustin Brown lite. Deal with that.
Dustin Brown lite who's having a much better year than the actual Dustin Brown.

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Callahan on an already strong team would be absolutely devastating. Playing less minutes on a lower line would make his p/k and energy play much more effective. He's a high emotion, high leadership player a contender could rely on in a deep PO run. I know Pitt can't afford him, but he would really bolster them for a long run.
He's already playing less minutes, on the Rangers 3rd line and pk'ing much less then he was under torts. His minutes per game are down by like 3 or 4 this year under AV. Zucc and Nash have made him our 3rd right wing and with the amount of quality Penalty killers this team has he is just falling more down the depth chart. You could see this when he's been out this year, our PK was still one of the best in the NHL.

While homegrown and still very productive, in the way that he is, to give him that salary would be ludicrous and would handicap this team going forward.

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As a Leafs fan I want nothing to do with Girardi. Dumb as a sack of rocks (really low hockey IQ) and played his best years insulated in a system that magnified his strengths and masked his weaknesses. No surprise he has regressed under AV.

Callahan is a guy I would be really intrigued by. Basically a rich man's Clarktard. Signed or unsigned, he does have a lot of internal value to the Rangers given his leadership and community benefits, so I think the price would be too high for what the Leafs are willing to give up, especially since wing is our strongest position.
I'm really confused by this post. I have watched almost every single game that both Girardi and Cally have played in their careers, with probably about a third of those being in person. At this point, Girardi is the guy who the Rangers should pay to keep, not even a question. THe problem with him is his speed, but his IQ is certainly not low, especially compared to a rock.

Callahan compared to Clarkson is laughable. And more so, Cally is a right wing, not a left wing.

While I'm not sure of their value on the market (although based on past returns for guys like Murray, Clowe, Gaustad, etc, I'd assume they'd be somewhat high, even as rentals) I completely disagree with your assessment of them as players and your comparables.

When it comes to my heart, I love Cally more than Girardi, but the smart management move is to keep Girardi over Cally and i hope the Rangers see that.

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01-31-2014, 09:55 AM
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Dustin Brown lite who's having a much better year than the actual Dustin Brown.
Yeah this is kind of funny.
Over the last three years, there have been three polls of Brown vs. Callahan.

One Callahan destroyed Brown
The next Brown destroyed Callahan
and the third they more or less tied.

It really shows how fans look at "what have you done for me in the last two weeks".

I'd argue that Callahan and Brown have ~the same trade value. Callahan will not go for crap, even as a UFA, the type of player he is will create a lot of demand. Also, I'm sure that the Rangers can work out a deal where the team he is getting traded to can pre-arrange a contract. It has happened before, and ultimately increases the return.

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As a Leafs fan I want nothing to do with Girardi. Dumb as a sack of rocks (really low hockey IQ) and played his best years insulated in a system that magnified his strengths and masked his weaknesses. No surprise he has regressed under AV.

Callahan is a guy I would be really intrigued by. Basically a rich man's Clarktard. Signed or unsigned, he does have a lot of internal value to the Rangers given his leadership and community benefits, so I think the price would be too high for what the Leafs are willing to give up, especially since wing is our strongest position.
Callahan actually is a top six while Clarkson isn't.

Lupul/Kadri/Callahan

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01-31-2014, 10:14 AM
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I'd argue that Callahan and Brown have ~the same trade value. Callahan will not go for crap, even as a UFA, the type of player he is will create a lot of demand. Also, I'm sure that the Rangers can work out a deal where the team he is getting traded to can pre-arrange a contract. It has happened before, and ultimately increases the return.
I like both players, but having seen both would place a little more value on Callahan. I think he has better hockey sense.

If your club can't keep him I would expect Edmonton to step up immediately and make the strongest offer. The same can be said for Girardi.

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