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02-03-2014, 07:09 PM
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I think Girardi will be much better equipped to handle his inevitable aging than Redden was. Redden was a PMD who depended upon his quickness. When that quickness went, he was lost.

Girardi is a classic shut down D that depends upon his smarts, experience, and positioning. Skating and quickness have never been the heart of his game.

Over the course of his next contract, hopefully with us, I'm sure he will fall from the 1st pair to the 2nd. But that is unlikely to happen for a few years yet. Players like Girardi tend to last a long time and are always valued and in demand.

Although he may already have peaked, he still a fine player and will likely remain one for years, even as his skills erode. We can replace Cally, we can't replace Girardi.

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02-03-2014, 07:13 PM
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His name is being thrown out there because its the only name thats been mentioned by reliable sources. Stewart, though inconsistent, plays a physical game and has a better scoring touch than callahan. The Rangers have guys that can be utilized for the PK: Boyle, Moore, Hagelin, Zuccarello. And its not like the rangers want to trade callahan, they really have no choice. It's been mentioned Buffalo seems to be the team willing to meet Callahan's asking price.

And comparing Dubinsky's salary to Stewart's is irrelevant. Different time, different cap situations. Salaries are inflated now. I'd take Stewart or Dubi's salaries considering what Callahan is about to get.
Just looking at stats, Stewart doesn't seem to be any more productive goals or assists-wise than Callahan has been (goal-wise Stewart has 6 more, but I meant more career-wise even though it probably wouldn't matter). They're about the same on the PP. I don't watch the Blues/him on a regular basis so I can't really say how he affects the rest of the game though. I'm just always wary of players that are labeled as playing X/Y/Z style, only to come to the Rangers and have everything just fall apart. I always forget the cap is gunna keep rising, I think I mentioned Stewart's contract being up after next season and that was where my train of thought ended on that. But what about teams like Phoenix/Colorado/Anaheim? Do they not have the room/enough money to throw around like that?

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02-03-2014, 07:13 PM
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Stewart plus a good pick (Edmonton's 2nd) or a good prospect would be good value for a rental.
As you said, he is the only name we know because of the reports. For all we know they could be looking at a couple of other offers along the same lines.
Wish we knew those names so we can speculate about someone else


Anyways, was just watching Devils vs Avs. Still holding out hope Jagr could be a deadline addition. He still makes things happen.

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02-03-2014, 07:14 PM
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How so? Are you comparing Del Zotto to Redden or something?
What? I'm comparing the Del Zotto situation to the Callahan one. You know, what the post I quoted was about?

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02-03-2014, 07:16 PM
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Is there any benefit of not waiting till the trade deadline and getting it done before the Olympic freeze? I can't imagine there being anything.

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02-03-2014, 07:19 PM
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what has callahan done to put pressure on the rangers?

turned down an offer for 5yr 30m?
Well, this is what we heard about his agent earlier.
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2:17PM: There is expected to be continued dialogue with Ryan Callahanís agent and the Rangers this week before the roster freeze and potential deadline for a resolution on Friday. (ESPN NY)

There have been no developments on any potential front with Callahan and the Rangers in the past couple of days. Stephen Bartlett, Callahanís agent, says that he will touch base with his client on Tuesday. Callahan doesnít want to get involved with the business side of things. (ESPN NY)
Is he buying time? Well according to Dreger , he is

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It seems like a pressing issue. What are the chances Callahan gets either signed or traded before this Friday's Olympic roster freeze?

Dreger: 50/50. I know that's an easy guess to make but I would say it's more unlikely to get done because there is a willingness to push this as far as you can. But in the meantime the Rangers also need to get as much in return as possible for Callahan. The Chris Stewart deal with the St. Louis Blues is still there; Stewart would be a part of that.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/story/?i...=nhl-predators

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02-03-2014, 07:20 PM
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What? I'm comparing the Del Zotto situation to the Callahan one. You know, what the post I quoted was about?
The Del Zotto situation, in that he's the odd man out of the roster?

For some reason I thought you meant Del Zotto came in to replace another defenseman.

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02-03-2014, 07:21 PM
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The Del Zotto situation, in that he's the odd man out of the roster?

For some reason I thought you meant Del Zotto came in to replace another defenseman.
Yes, as in the odd-man out. You got it!

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02-03-2014, 07:24 PM
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Is there any benefit of not waiting till the trade deadline and getting it done before the Olympic freeze? I can't imagine there being anything.
Cally could get hurt. That's the benefit

We also have a month to get over the captain being dealt lol

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At this point I'd move him for the best return possible. Move on. He wants to be paid, let him.

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Yes, as in the odd-man out. You got it!
I expect a hero cookie, asap.

Chocolate pls.

Would Callahan really be the odd man out, if he didn't have ludicrous contract demands though?

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02-03-2014, 07:26 PM
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AnyOne else going *****ing nuts with all this speculation?

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AnyOne else going *****ing nuts with all this speculation?
Not really.

Kinda want it to just end already.

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I expect a hero cookie, asap.

Chocolate pls.

Would Callahan really be the odd man out, if he didn't have ludicrous contract demands though?
He might not have been, but I think there's a decent possibility that Callahan taking a discount or signing for exact value would have resulted in Zuccarello being the odd man out.

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02-03-2014, 07:28 PM
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Cally could get hurt. That's the benefit

We also have a month to get over the captain being dealt lol
Agree with this....I'm sure if he is traded it'll effect the guys in the locker room...especially step hags hank...the guys who have been here a while

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Again, so much talk on Clallahan, the Rangers have plenty of valuable pieces outside of him heading to UFA. Boyle. Moore. Stralman. Girardi. Pouliot.

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Again, so much talk on Clallahan, the Rangers have plenty of valuable pieces outside of him heading to UFA. Boyle. Moore. Stralman. Girardi. Pouliot.
I really think that's a big factor, in combination with the Olympics injury concern, in why Sather wants this resolved this week, one way or the other.

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02-03-2014, 07:30 PM
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Again, so much talk on Clallahan, the Rangers have plenty of valuable pieces outside of him heading to UFA. Boyle. Moore. Stralman. Girardi. Pouliot.
I don't see the rangers moving any of those guys. ESPECIALLY if they win 2 of the next 3 going into the break. They have finally gotten it together. The reason for moving callahan is because he will get you the best return. There's no reason to deal the 3rd and 4th liners. I believe Girardi will re-sign. Stralman they will wait until after the season.

We are not the Islanders or Oilers. We do not have to have a fire sale.

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He might not have been, but I think there's a decent possibility that Callahan taking a discount or signing for exact value would have resulted in Zuccarello being the odd man out.

All I have in the apartment is fortune cookies. You'll have to make do.
Hm, not sure I'd come to that conclusion, but okay. I guess it's a good situation to be in.

And unlike Girardi, this team won't need to kill itself finding a replacement. Seems like Fast can step in as soon as now.

Fine, but I expect chocolate next time. You've been warned.

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02-03-2014, 07:31 PM
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the more information that comes out about negotiations and what kind of money Callahan wants the more his value keeps plummeting, I've seen Tarasenko and Jaskin's name thrown around in this thread, at this point were lucky to get just Stewart. I get that teams could want him for a playoff push but not at the price of young assets, all the playoff contenders rumored to be in on Callahan are pressed up against the cap, yes its rising but all these teams have their own players to take care of, no team is going to pony up a roster player, blue chip prospect and first for a guy they likely will not want to resign.

Also wouldn't be surprised at all if Girardi is signed very quickly after Callahan is traded, and more pieces start to be moved/signed like Boyle and Stralman.

Also dont like the fact that Callahan hasnt talked to his agent in a few days, I understand he has better things to worry about but it seams like the numbers have changed I wonder if that is Callahan or his agent making a final push for more money before Sathers deadline Friday.


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I really think that's a big factor, in combination with the Olympics injury concern, in why Sather wants this resolved this week, one way or the other.
It needs to be done before. Too much risk to not trade him beforehand. This isn't Girardi who isn't playing.

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Again, so much talk on Clallahan, the Rangers have plenty of valuable pieces outside of him heading to UFA. Boyle. Moore. Stralman. Girardi. Pouliot.
Honestly, I see all of them walking for nothing except for Girardi. Maybe Boyle gets resigned.

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Honestly, I see all of them walking for nothing except for Girardi. Maybe Boyle gets resigned.
That would be an inexcusable and unmitigated disaster.

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That would be an inexcusable and unmitigated disaster.
Totally agree. Awful asset management

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I don't see the rangers moving any of those guys. ESPECIALLY if they win 2 of the next 3 going into the break. They have finally gotten it together. The reason for moving callahan is because he will get you the best return. There's no reason to deal the 3rd and 4th liners. I believe Girardi will re-sign. Stralman they will wait until after the season.

We are not the Islanders or Oilers. We do not have to have a fire sale.
Agreed this is a playoff team not a team needing to fire sale . Tons of teams keep ufas

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