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02-03-2014, 11:44 AM
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He was walking at the end of the season so good deal. Space for Beaulieu

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So basically this means more Prust on the 3rd line.

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Vancouver now has Weber and Diaz..definitely going in the right direction! Or maybe this means the end for Weber cause they can't both be playing at the same time lol. Poor Weber, he keeps getting shafted by Diaz time and time again.

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Upgrade over TRAVIS MOEN

We just got bigger and meaner, the leafs and big bad bruins can go .............now
No one on those teams will care. Weise is not a very good fighter.

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So I guess that he can fight is good....he might take some fights off Prust and Moen.....But winning fights...that's just another dimension to his game he has trouble with. We'll see what he does. But not that long ago, Diaz was doing really well. Just like tons of players that were doing well and we did what he could to kill their value....which we did with Diaz. I guess though that it will solidy our "speed" identity....

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Weise is actually good.

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Trade a 17 minute guy when used properly for a 4th liner that won't have an NHL job in a year. Lets hope he takes Therrien with him.
That ice time and pp time is going to go to Beaulieu so what's the problem? We want the Habs to go younger and let these kids play and when we make a move for them we complain. I mean come on Diaz is nothing special, seriously guys

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Bergevin is an awful GM.
Why because he traded an impending soft undersized dman, for a gritty fourth line forward that we actually need.

Look at this team without white, we are not tough to play against at all.And Parros does not cut it as a player.

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Can't help but laugh at the people complaining. Not exactly sure what people expected the return to be on a 28 year old healthy scratch who is going to be a UFA in July

If anything, this should mean Beaulieu is staying which is the best news out of this trade

Obviously top 6 scoring is our biggest problem right now, but Diaz wasn't bringing that back no matter how he was packaged

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No one on those teams will care. Weise is not a very good fighter.
Yes you are right but he can hold his own because none of Desharnais, Briere, Markov and Gorges cant fight and etc. The more bigger players we get, they will think twice before creating crap. Last game Murray, Prust and Parros were on ice vs bruins so they couldnt bully everyone.

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so we get Kostopoulos 2.0?

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So long player #61

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Habs trade 4th-best D-man for 4th-liner to further size and toughness fetish. Team getting worse again.

Good GM fleeces bad GM out of a good player. Typical story.

Not a good sign for the Habs' chances over the next few years.

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Hey guys. Canucks fan coming in peace.

Weise is a solid bottom 6 player. He's fast (won our fastest skater competition 2 years in a row) and has some decent offense. He can play hard and play an excellent grinding game while chipping in with some points once in a while. He's ideally a 4th liner but can slot up on the 3rd line if needed. Unfortunately, ever since the lockout where he was a monstrous scorer in the Dutch league, he's been prone to Johnny Malkin Syndrome where he thinks he's more skilled than he really is and attempts to give himself more ice-time here and there and try to dangle guys (often unsuccessfully). He does seem to have a knack for playing really well against Nashville for some reason. IIRC, a large percentage of his career points were against Nashville. All in all, solid bottom 6 player if he gets his head out of his ass. Hope Dutch Gretzky (aka the Great Chin) serves you well!

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Why because he traded an impending soft undersized dman, for a gritty fourth line forward that we actually need.

Look at this team without white, we are not tough to play against at all.And Parros does not cut it as a player.
No because it's obvious he can't improve the team.

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The question is will Dale Weise get signed after this season ??

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Can't believe a guy that has shown he's capable of top-4 duties is worth a 4th line plug...

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People would be happy if Diaz fetched Clifford from LA.

He fetched Weise...why so glum?

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Diaz has been surpassed by Beaulieu on the depth chart...so he was essentially no longer part of this team

I'm not shocked they couldn't get more for him, those who thought Diaz had big value were dreaming IMO, he's a pending UFA who hasn't played in awhile

No reason for anyone to give up anything of value


Weise is a decent grinder...he's a lot like a Travis Moen, he'll help define the Habs 3rd and 4th lines a bit better than they are now.

This is a pretty insignificant trade that's probably gonna be over-analyzed on this thread

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so we get Kostopoulos 2.0?
Pretty good comparison.

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Good luck with the Canucks Raphael..

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Good skater, underrated hands, never wins a fight but is always willing. He seemed a little lost this year under Torts but he does have some potential. Solid 4th liner with possible 3rd line upside.

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and IMO habs must be working on something because White is coming back soon, and we have a lot of healthy forwards.
Hmmmm. Maybe theres more to this than we think. Theres been talk about the Olympic break being an early trade deadline. Might be a bigger move on the way.

If not I don't mind the move, Diaz was gone already in the plans anyway. Weise is still young and he could ebd up being decent

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Why because he traded an impending soft undersized dman, for a gritty fourth line forward that we actually need.

Look at this team without white, we are not tough to play against at all.And Parros does not cut it as a player.
You've convinced me... Dale Weise will save our season!

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We got an upgrade on Diaz with Beaulieu, Bergevin traded him for something before he walked as a UFA

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