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New York Rangers reaping the benefits of a strong 2009 draft class


The New York Rangers selected seven players in the 2009 NHL Draft. Of those seven, three are still part of the organization, including the team's first round selection and current first line NHL forward, Chris Kreider. Two additional players, second rounder Ethan Werek and fifth round selection Roman Horak, were traded in transactions that have proved very fruitful for New York.



Prospect Oscar Lindberg came from Phoenix in exchange for Werek, and Horak was traded to Calgary in the deal that brought Tim Erixon to New York – the same Erixon who was later a piece of the trade with Columbus for Rick Nash.… read more



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so.....pretty much just Kreider

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so.....pretty much just Kreider
that's what I was thinking too.

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Sorry guys, I think that if you get a first liner out of the draft, as well as a trade for an excellent prospect, and use another draftee who then you trade for a prospect who becomes a big part of a trade for a franchise player, you have done really well.

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Sorry guys, I think that if you get a first liner out of the draft, as well as a trade for an excellent prospect, and use another draftee who then you trade for a prospect who becomes a big part of a trade for a franchise player, you have done really well.
So, basically just Kreider.

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Sorry guys, I think that if you get a first liner out of the draft, as well as a trade for an excellent prospect, and use another draftee who then you trade for a prospect who becomes a big part of a trade for a franchise player, you have done really well.
I agree with you here, Leslie. Ignore the plebs.

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I agree with you here, Leslie. Ignore the plebs.
Yup.

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The 2008 draft was also very good. We got a top-6 center and a quality defenseman in MDZ, who has since turned into another quality defenseman Klein. If you can get one top-6F/top-4D player and one bottom-6F/bottom-2D out of a draft, that is an excellent draft.

Assuming Lindberg pans out, which I'm fairly certain he will, Slats/Gordie/Gorton deserves props for doing it two drafts in a row. In fact, probably 3 drafts in a row: from 2010, we will almost certainly get MCI and Fast, plus likely one of Kristo or Yogan. To get 3 players out of a draft is a tremendous accomplishment.

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so.....pretty much just Kreider
Sure, if you stop reading after the second sentence.

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Sorry guys, I think that if you get a first liner out of the draft, as well as a trade for an excellent prospect, and use another draftee who then you trade for a prospect who becomes a big part of a trade for a franchise player, you have done really well.
Nice to know there are still some sound minds on this board.

Much agreement from me Leslie.

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So it's 2009's fault we're stuck with Nash? Dammit Gorton.

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The 2008 draft was also very good. We got a top-6 center and a quality defenseman in MDZ, who has since turned into another quality defenseman Klein. If you can get one top-6F/top-4D player and one bottom-6F/bottom-2D out of a draft, that is an excellent draft.

Assuming Lindberg pans out, which I'm fairly certain he will, Slats/Gordie/Gorton deserves props for doing it two drafts in a row. In fact, probably 3 drafts in a row: from 2010, we will almost certainly get MCI and Fast, plus likely one of Kristo or Yogan. To get 3 players out of a draft is a tremendous accomplishment.
Dude, we still haven't picked a top line center from the middle/later picks in the first round, our drafting sucks!

But really those were three quality drafts, got alot of value and some solid players.

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So it's 2009's fault we're stuck with Nash? Dammit Gorton.
I blame Tim Erixon's dad. He wanted his son to play for the Rangers so we traded for him.

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I agree, just Krieder. Let's not overthink this trading certain picks for a franchise player. Nash held Columbus hostage in trading him only giving them basically a couple teams he could go to, so it basically came down to making the deal look as good as you could to make sure it would get NHL approval.

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Tough crowd to please.

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I agree, just Krieder. Let's not overthink this trading certain picks for a franchise player. Nash held Columbus hostage in trading him only giving them basically a couple teams he could go to, so it basically came down to making the deal look as good as you could to make sure it would get NHL approval.
Didn't know the NHL operated like it was a video game trading feature

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Kreider's looking like a potential legit 1st line winger. Anytime you can get someone who is a legit 1st line/1st pairing/starting goaltender in a draft year that draft year is a success whether anyone else makes it or not. Exchange Werek for Lindberg who is probably going to be an NHL player and you have two guys from this draft besides another who was used to get Nash to the Rangers. Anyway there is a lot more upside to Kreider's game than we've seen up to now. He's still figuring things out. I expect he'll turn into a much better player.

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Didn't know the NHL operated like it was a video game trading feature
Actually, they do. They can veto a trade.

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If Kreider is the only one of the 09 draftee's to ever play a meaningful number of games in the NHL it's a good draft but arguably it is "just Kreider". That said they were smart enough to draft players who had percieved value in Horak and Werek and turned that value into Erixon (then Nash) and Lindberg so you could argue that the trade value and how it was used was also notable and should be included in the evaluation. If you look at how the actual picks did as individuals and ignore trades then yes it is "just Kreider" which is still good. I feel it's more about looking how the individual players did although the trades should definitely be weighed in their too so at the very least it's a pretty good draft and use of prospects/picks by the rangers

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So, basically just Kreider.
haha, yup! Pretty disappointing

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Sure, if you stop reading after the second sentence.
Just re-read it again.

My statement stands...so pretty much just Kreider? Spare parts from every draft year are always going both ways in trades.

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The Rangers are going to have trouble competing for the cup if they don't develop, in order:

1. a #1 center
2. a play making defenseman
3. Bottom 6 forward options

Not saying its easy, but year after year after year the system fails to produce these critical components.

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The Rangers are going to have trouble competing for the cup if they don't develop, in order:

1. a #1 center
2. a play making defenseman
3. Bottom 6 forward options

Not saying its easy, but year after year after year the system fails to produce these critical components.
The bottom 6 certainly hasn't been a problem this year.

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Just re-read it again.

My statement stands...so pretty much just Kreider? Spare parts from every draft year are always going both ways in trades.
I completely agree, and am puzzled how anyone could think otherwise.

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The bottom 6 certainly hasn't been a problem this year.
The Pouliot/Brassard/Zuccarello line has some chemistry, and have benefitted from a more offensive team approach. Incidentally, none of these guys were drafted by the Rangers.

Sooner or later, the Rangers are going to have to fill the bottom 6 with cheaper internal options.

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