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03-08-2014, 07:18 PM
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Tolchinsky should have been drafted. I mean, not in the first rounds, not even mid-rounds, but when 6th and 7th rounder happen to be rolling the dice type of players.....well he should have been drafted. I hope he is this year.
Property of the Hurricanes I believe.

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Property of the Hurricanes I believe.
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Any fan that has the false perception that the Habs are able to compete with the Elite playoff contenders, should get a copy of the San Jose Sharks - Habs game and watch it as many times as it takes to realize they are not.

Of course St.Louis Blues and San Jose Sharks take size to the extreme, but they will always beat the Habs in a seven game series, most often in less than 5 or 6 games. Size is a factor in the NHL, the sooner the Habs become equal in size, the sooner a Stanley Cup will be a possibility in Habland. Players like Tolchinsky and others his size, while pretty are like shrinking violets when they play talented big men, having heart is great but the big men have heart too, a fact not lost on some GMs around SC winners the last decade.

A team that ices more than two smaller forwards as regulars, throughout the playoffs will not win the SC. Simply put professional hockey players are getting bigger and to come out on top, size is necessary and that is not dreaming!

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If we drafted Ehlers (sadly likely not possible), this board would explode with hate. "Another smurf!!!! "
I don't know about that. With Collberg traded I'm assuming people would be more open to a high skill guy. Guys like Reway, Hudon and Lehkonen are real stretches to become top 6 forwards in the NHL. I don't think any of them have top line potential either. The weakness in our prospect pool isn't size as much as it is high end potential.

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I don't know about that. With Collberg traded I'm assuming people would be more open to a high skill guy. Guys like Reway, Hudon and Lehkonen are real stretches to become top 6 forwards in the NHL. I don't think any of them have top line potential either. The weakness in our prospect pool isn't size as much as it is high end potential.
We've got some good depth in our pool now. Time for some big swings.

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03-09-2014, 05:57 PM
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I don't know about that. With Collberg traded I'm assuming people would be more open to a high skill guy. Guys like Reway, Hudon and Lehkonen are real stretches to become top 6 forwards in the NHL. I don't think any of them have top line potential either. The weakness in our prospect pool isn't size as much as it is high end potential.
No top liners in our pool, no. We have quality potential top 6 in small stature....exactly what Collberg is. So we traded from a position of strength on that one.

Not all of these guys will play for us at thed NHL level, so may as well use some to fill other needs.

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I know he's not draft eligible, but I have to talk about this guy I've seen play over 40 games this season. J-F Plante is a guy I hope the Habs keep a close look at, I know that he has had a few contract offers already from NHL teams.

He never was a scorer before his great season this year. He actually has always been seen as a good defensive forward. He can play any forward position, is strongly built, can skate and has a lot of drive/character. He started to shoot more this season and everything enters.

He's my homer choice for 'Q UFA's this season.

I think he could become a PK specialist in the NHL. He'll do anything to win. If the Habs don't offer him an ELC, he'll get it from someone, of that I'm pretty sure.

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03-09-2014, 11:23 PM
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We are small but what worries me most is how slow we look especially at defense. Hopefully we can fix these holes.

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If we can't resign Vanek, we need to trade up into the 5-10 range to replace him. With Bennett, Dal Colle, Draisaitl, Ritchie, Perlini and Ehlers potentially available at LW (they can and have all played there) and the price to move up being lower that it would be in "strong" draft years, it's the right time to do it.

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Bergevin should seriously do whatever it takes to draft this kid, he looks NHL ready because of his skills alone.
He's the guy I want too. Hope he falls to 30th

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Any fan that has the false perception that the Habs are able to compete with the Elite playoff contenders, should get a copy of the San Jose Sharks - Habs game and watch it as many times as it takes to realize they are not.

Of course St.Louis Blues and San Jose Sharks take size to the extreme, but they will always beat the Habs in a seven game series, most often in less than 5 or 6 games. Size is a factor in the NHL, the sooner the Habs become equal in size, the sooner a Stanley Cup will be a possibility in Habland. Players like Tolchinsky and others his size, while pretty are like shrinking violets when they play talented big men, having heart is great but the big men have heart too, a fact not lost on some GMs around SC winners the last decade.

A team that ices more than two smaller forwards as regulars, throughout the playoffs will not win the SC. Simply put professional hockey players are getting bigger and to come out on top, size is necessary and that is not dreaming!
Yup, the big Thorton and marleau have taken them to the promise land on multiple occasions. Last I checked they seem to be a regular season dream team but somehow get knocked out of any Stanley cup contention on a regular basis. Oh but that doesn't matter your just living in the moment. Good for you. You know what they say about Dudes that own big ass trucks don't you? Well, that's true about fans that want the team they cheer for to be big too.

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03-10-2014, 09:07 PM
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Right now, my top 4 (in order) for the 1st round is:

1) Nikolaj Ehlers
2) Ivan Barbashev
3) Alex Tuch
4) Nikolai Goldobin

We should try to get the best offensive player in the first round. Now that we don't have a 2nd round, we should target a puck-moving d-men and a crease-cleaning d-men in the late round. We have to replace Beaulieu and Tinordi in our pool, they will graduate next year. I know you don't replace two 1st round choice with late round choice, but we have a lot of depth player, at all position. We can afford to try to hit some homerun.

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03-11-2014, 12:34 PM
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Right now, my top 4 (in order) for the 1st round is:

1) Nikolaj Ehlers
2) Ivan Barbashev
3) Alex Tuch
4) Nikolai Goldobin

We should try to get the best offensive player in the first round. Now that we don't have a 2nd round, we should target a puck-moving d-men and a crease-cleaning d-men in the late round. We have to replace Beaulieu and Tinordi in our pool, they will graduate next year. I know you don't replace two 1st round choice with late round choice, but we have a lot of depth player, at all position. We can afford to try to hit some homerun.
Ehlers will likely be a top 10 pick with the tear he's gone on in the 2nd half.

Habs will pick around #15-20

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03-11-2014, 12:55 PM
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I don't want Goldobin for the simple fact I don't believe in the Habs ability to develop those type of players.

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Ehlers will likely be a top 10 pick with the tear he's gone on in the 2nd half.

Habs will pick around #15-20
I had Ehlers in my top ten in November. He won't be available when the Habs pick.

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DeAngelo is going to fall big time due to defensive and character issues.

Demko that low is just ridiculous. Same with Virtanen.

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Right now, my top 4 (in order) for the 1st round is:

1) Nikolaj Ehlers
2) Ivan Barbashev
3) Alex Tuch
4) Nikolai Goldobin

We should try to get the best offensive player in the first round. Now that we don't have a 2nd round, we should target a puck-moving d-men and a crease-cleaning d-men in the late round. We have to replace Beaulieu and Tinordi in our pool, they will graduate next year. I know you don't replace two 1st round choice with late round choice, but we have a lot of depth player, at all position. We can afford to try to hit some homerun.
I agree with you. At least a Dmen or two in the next draft. For the first round, only Tuch could be available when the Habs will select, and probably not if they select after 24.
Don't forget Pateryn for september. After him, Dietz, Thrower, Ellis, Nygren, and more are coming soon (1 or 2 years at least).

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I think we need to fix some of our needs. Size. Reason why I'll say that the Habs should take a look at....Nicholas Jones. 5'10'' 175 lbs. He's destroying the AJHL right now based on his age. If he's not the best scorer of his league, proportionnally based on his age, he is. Not a big frame.....I know. Can't wait to see where he goes. Could be like everybody else coming from that league....nothing. A bust...like Colborne (or slow starter, call him how you want...) Or the next Matt Frattin. But interest might start only in the 3rd at best.

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what spot do you guys think perlini, fleury, ritchie and virtanen are gonna go? i know alot of people have said virtanen could either be a late first/early second or a top 10-15ish prospect, perlini is more a top 5'ish guy right?

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I think we need to fix some of our needs. Size. Reason why I'll say that the Habs should take a look at....Nicholas Jones. 5'10'' 175 lbs. He's destroying the AJHL right now based on his age. If he's not the best scorer of his league, proportionnally based on his age, he is. Not a big frame.....I know. Can't wait to see where he goes. Could be like everybody else coming from that league....nothing. A bust...like Colborne (or slow starter, call him how you want...) Or the next Matt Frattin. But interest might start only in the 3rd at best.
Thing is with the AJHL is that it is difficult to evaluate their competition against weaker players.

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what spot do you guys think perlini, fleury, ritchie and virtanen are gonna go? i know alot of people have said virtanen could either be a late first/early second or a top 10-15ish prospect, perlini is more a top 5'ish guy right?
Doubt any of these guys fall below 15. Fleury is the top defenseman after Ekblad, he is a top 10 for sure.

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Doubt any of these guys fall below 15. Fleury is the top defenseman after Ekblad, he is a top 10 for sure.
would it be a good move to trade up for ritchie if he goes at like #15?

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